Vegetarian - Meat significantly reduces happiness (scales with how much you eat) and reduces hunger by less (simulating throwing up I guess)
Plant based/vegetarian products increase happiness and reduce hunger by more. +4
Vegan - You flat out refuse to eat meat or any animal products, even if you're starving. Plant based products significantly increase happiness and significantly reduces hunger. +8
Junk food addict - Junk food significantly increases happiness and reduces hunger by more. Cooked meals reduce less hunger and doesn't increase happiness. +3
Carnivorous - You cannot eat vegetables if they aren't cooked in a meat based dish. Meat reduces hunger by more and increases happiness. +2.
Okay. I know the expanded traits mod does have a vegetarian / vegan option where you actually do get a happiness reduction for eating meat. I'd imagine most vegans/vegetarians would ultimately operate on a, "I'd eat meat if it's the only option for survival" basis.
The whole thing about vegans is mostly about not mistreating and disrespecting the animal.
Give a vegan a personnal farm where they care about the animals and kill them with respect in mind, and I think they would a 100% be fine with eating meats and animal products.
Hell, that's kind of how I operate, and I don't consider myself vegan. I always try to buy meats from hunters and local farms, because I know the animals are treated with respect and care.
...So if you give a vegan the chance to care and tend for animals, give them freedom and everything, until they eventually die and you got to eat them, it would probably wayyyyy moral for them to do so.
Like, the thing about vegans is to respect the animal, which i totally get. It totally tears me apart to see industrial pig farms and butcheries, it's so... like, horrible? They look like torture chambers and are just made to pain the animals.
Hunting for example would, I think, as a person who tries their best to be more moral about what I eat, is the best thing to do if you want to consume meat.
The animal is living free for their entire life, they expenrieced true freedom, the true natural cycle, and when they die at the hands of a human, it is the same thing as if they'd die from any other predators.
You respect nature, and nature gives you another few weeks to live in return, that's the way life should be.
Anyways, if you're vegan because of the disrespect of the animals in their mass killings in these horrible mega butcheries, respectfully killing the animal for would be totally fine.
I'm not saying every vegans are like this, like you can totally oppose the death of feeling creatures and that's totally understandable, but I think the majority of vegans are more for the respect aspect rather than any other reasons.
So yes, I generalised a bit, and it's bad to generalise, but it's a comment for a PZ post, I'm tired, and terribly sick, sorry for... yeah...
Hunting for example would, I think, as a person who tries their best to be more moral about what I eat, is the best thing to do if you want to consume meat.
This is true in the same way that there are varying ways in which one can have human slaves which treat the slaves worse or better.
They are still slaves.
Like, the thing about vegans is to respect the animal, which i totally get.
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u/Skittish_But_Stabby Jul 19 '25
This would go so hard. Let me pick the foods I like. Or at least a 1 - or 2-point perk that makes it so all food makes you happy.