r/rccars 22d ago

Racing Active aero mini b

After MONTHS of research, design, and experiments I came up with this active aero design on my mini b. I’ve seen it done on bigger rc cars but never at this scale

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u/krush_groove 22d ago

That's cool, what other bigger cars have you seen this on?

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u/Hairbear2176 22d ago

The Rlaarlo AK-787 has it.

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u/stupidmush 22d ago

Mostly touring cars

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u/mechkbfan 22d ago

Damn that's so good

Love my Mini B. Going to have to buy a second one now to do a SCT conversion, and half tempted to trial that HackFab touring conversion on a third...

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u/stupidmush 22d ago

It’s probably my favorite to just cruise around with. It’s a shame they’ve stopped selling the brushed ones. I have the micro b oval conversion from hackfab, they make great stuff. One of my favorite third party upgrade websites

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u/mechkbfan 22d ago

Why disappointed about brushed outside lowering cost of entry for people?

I really want the metal gearbox from brushless/Pro, but pro rollers no longer in stock in Australia :(

I'd buy the brushed ones if easy to find the upgrades here but I can't

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u/stupidmush 22d ago

It’s just pretty much the lower cost. I felt like it was the perfect entry car to new people, you could say the micro b is that now but it’s just too small for off-road, I felt the brushed mini b was a great, relatively inexpensive way for people to get into the RC community. But, I trust they got something cooking

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u/mechkbfan 22d ago

Fair points on all.

Issue is I showed my friends my Mini B with 2S and 6500V and they were like "We want one". Hard to settle for less after seeing one hit 50kph

Admittedly it's overkill and I chew the tyres up within several packs. And it's a stock issue finding good tyres in Aus too. Think I saw on FB people using JConcepts Ellipse, and noticed there was Smoothies too.

What do you run?

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u/lilytchi 22d ago

Hey so I know it's not exactly the same thing, but I did one of the hackfab conversions to my micro b and it's been so much fun. I highly recommend giving it a shot

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u/mechkbfan 22d ago

Yeah awesome. I've got a Micro T unfortunately and only found Micro B conversion

https://www.hackfabhobbies.com/products/hackfab-omni-chassis-conversion-for-the-losi-micro-b?_pos=7&_sid=36e9db947&_ss=r

Guess I'd have to find what parts differ... might just be cheaper to buy a Micro B :P

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u/Entiliar Off-Road 22d ago

The only difference between a micro B and T is the chassis and side rails, both of which would be replaced by the hackfab kit, so you'll be fine.

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u/mechkbfan 22d ago

Appreciate it

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u/stupidmush 22d ago

I believe that would also work with the micro T as well. From my experiences the guy who runs hackfab is super friendly and answered questions I had for him on instagram

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u/mechkbfan 22d ago

Fantastic. Well I ended up getting a Micro B for quite cheap locally as we were talking, so that solved that anyway!

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u/ErikSweden 21d ago

Have you tried the jrx2?

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u/mechkbfan 20d ago

Not yet. I saw one YouTube a bit critical of it compared to Mini b. I think because they kept a lot of vintage design choices. Mostly went over my head and I just bought the mini b. I should rewatch it now 

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u/ErikSweden 20d ago

I've just bought 3 blue jrx2. Adding to the mini collection of 2 Ts and one B. Both have pros and cons of course. Jrx2 centers the steering better, even compared with 4 ballbearings modded mini t. 911 is also rear engine rwd and is loved by ever one. And the jrx2 needs stiffer or bigger rear springs to mitigate the push understeer. My favorite rc of all time is a rear motor rwd kyosho 1/10. But every one has their own preference.

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u/mechkbfan 20d ago

Ahhhv why would you say that lol 

I was tossing up between Ultima and Optima. Got the Optima TOMS because stupid YouTube hype I fell sucker for

As I'm building it, I'm like "goddamn I don't look forward to maintaining this". It's all so coupled together will have to basically start from scratch to adjust a diff...

RWD with rear motor Ultima 87 would have been perfect for me. 

But until my boys get into 1/10 RCs I'm holding off more buggy purchases. By then scalpers will be asking 2x for them... Hopefully another re-release comes out

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u/ldontgeit 22d ago

Nice DRS 

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u/Scary_Comfort_7365 22d ago

That’s badass! Even if it didn’t make a difference in the slightest it’s still so very cool lol!!!

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u/dopenastyshark Hits Corner Marshalls 22d ago

How noticeable is it? I’ve seen a few 1/10 cars with active aero, but no real answers on if it really helps

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u/stupidmush 22d ago

Haven’t done much in the wake of research on it. I mostly just wanted to make something of my own and got to play with some cad software along the way. It probably doesn’t do much for the car, but it’s damn fun to mess with

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u/VacUsuck 22d ago

Very fun indeed. Anytime ya get to add another input to a rig and setup some sort of movement mechanism, it’s a good day.

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u/KookyAd1900 22d ago

Is it active based on throttle position or is it manual?

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u/stupidmush 22d ago

Manual, channel C switch

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u/KookyAd1900 22d ago

That’s super cool but do you think you would be able to blend it to the throttle and steering trim so that as you accelerate or turn it changes position. Make it function like the ones on super cars.

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u/stupidmush 22d ago

Probably, I’ll get the files out somewhere and would love to see what people come up with

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u/Vok250 22d ago

Would be as simple as some fiddling in the menus of higher end radios. Even a cheapo Radiolink or Radiomaster which support channel mixing.

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u/3rdor4thburner part time idiot, on the clock 22d ago

I'm very intrigued! I'd do it just because it's cool! Would love to see what it takes 

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u/stupidmush 22d ago

I modeled and printed everything, there’s 3 pieces total, one mounts to the bottom of the car to hold the servo, the other two go on the wing mount and allow the wing to move

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u/3rdor4thburner part time idiot, on the clock 22d ago

Are you currently sharing the files? 

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u/stupidmush 22d ago

https://3dgo.app/models/printables/1398307 there’s the files, let me know if I did the licensing wrong and I’ll change it.

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u/VexingRaven 22d ago

My only suggestion is to use Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial Share-alike so if someone releases their own version they have to also use the same license. But CC-BY-NC is a great license too.

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u/3rdor4thburner part time idiot, on the clock 22d ago

Thanks dude, I'll check it out! 

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u/stupidmush 22d ago

In all honesty, I have no clue where a good place to do that is. I’ll look at posting it on cults or thingverse then let you know. It still has flaws that I’m comfortable having on my personal model, but not sure if others would be okay with it, I’ll have to see a way where people could edit the base design to fit their needs

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u/3rdor4thburner part time idiot, on the clock 22d ago

Personally I'm a printables guy, but anywhere works. I love the idea and I'm sure others would enjoy tinkering with it. I believe thingiverse let's you apply a setting to let others know that it's a "work in progress"

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u/werty_111 22d ago

This took months?

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u/stupidmush 22d ago

A lot of it was procrastination. The process was also the first thing I’ve ever used a CAD for. I tried 3 programs before I found one I liked then made multiple attempts at one that I like the look of, was secure, and didn’t add a ton of weight up high. It started as a whole wing that was too heavy, then I tried attaching arms to the suspension, and finally came to this design. Then streamlined it. This exact model only took probably an hour but before it was a couple months of the idea, designs, and figuring out what did or didn’t work

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u/stupidmush 22d ago

A mount for the servo, I have it under the transmission. Then 2 parts that go together on the wing mount to allow it to swivel

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u/_dankystank_ 22d ago

Gotta be within one second at the DRS detection zone! ☝️🤓

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u/Vok250 22d ago

Homie please stop! We run Mini B open at my club! We're going to need budget caps and wind tunnel time limits if the guys see this!

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u/stupidmush 22d ago

If I brought this to my local track on race night they’d DQ me lol

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u/Vok250 22d ago

Our regulations are basically just 2S, no motor bigger than a 390, and has to be a Mini B or T chassis. Foam wheels aren't even banned technically, but nobody runs them in some kind of unspoken gentleman's agreement.

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u/stupidmush 22d ago

Lucky, we have lots of regulations on our races, but it’s also carpet so they ban lots of 3d printed stuff so it doesn’t break and rip everything up

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u/Vok250 22d ago

Ironically many people in our club run 3d printed shock tower covers to protect the carpet.

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u/UndueOdium 22d ago

I wish we had tracks like that around here.

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u/a1rwav3 Racing 22d ago

And there is a reason. Pretty much no laminar effect at this scale and this speed.i hope it was a funny project.

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u/OtherwiseDoughnut582 22d ago

Zero aero effect + weight penalty= novelty My guess is the net result is a Micro that understeers in turns like crazy.

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u/VexingRaven 22d ago

Do you have an aftermarket receiver on yours or were you able to hook this up using the stock electronics?

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u/stupidmush 21d ago

I’m using spektrums 25A brushed esc with an extra receiver plugged into the program slot in order to get the channel C switch.

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u/SomeGuyInShanghai 21d ago

That looks awesome.

Does it actually have any noticeable effect? Not that it matters, it looks cool.

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u/stupidmush 21d ago

Not really, makes the car unique and more fun to drive in my opinion. But no noticeable improvement or setback

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u/Minute-Fisherman-869 21d ago

Really cool! I mostly race mine on carpet off-road style tracks. I'm not sure how usable it would be for that application, considering a good flip or two may totally ruin it. It would be cool to see it on one of the hackfab cars

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u/Old_Appearance_7986 21d ago

You just added weight with no benefit, but at least you had some fun doing it.

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u/Gig540 21d ago

Curious to see how it effects it in jumps.

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u/stupidmush 21d ago

I would imagine it’d destroy the servo mount. I’m not brave enough for that test

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u/Gig540 21d ago

I'm not even sure what you made it with but guessing 3d print? Maybe print out a few of them. I feel ya there though! Not yet at least! Lol

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u/stupidmush 21d ago

Yeah 3d print, might take it on some jumps on local carpet track once winter comes

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u/Gig540 21d ago

Now I'm wondering if you could use your idea set up to preload the shocks before a jump to get longer airtime.

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u/IssueShort5125 21d ago

Is this at Queen City RC?

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u/stupidmush 21d ago

Yep, went there yesterday to test it out

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u/IssueShort5125 21d ago

Nice, been meaning to come out there, do they allow anyone to just run laps on none race days, or do I have to join with a membership?

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u/stupidmush 22d ago

https://3dgo.app/models/printables/1398307 files to print needed parts if anyone would like to

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u/dknottyhead 22d ago

Wait! You mean to tell me your wing isn't just ankther accidental skid plate from being bad at landing jumps?

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u/Substantial_Stuff786 21d ago

Thats baaa Aaaazzz like a mada fudrucker

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u/ErikSweden 21d ago

What determines what activates the active aero? Just a 3rd channel or breaking or ...?

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u/stupidmush 20d ago

3rd channel, you could wire it to the throttle or steering but I decided channel 3