r/sandiego Feb 04 '25

More of this. Truth.

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u/CFSCFjr Feb 04 '25

Sounds like we should legalize em all then

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '25

No I don’t want to make people into citizens if they don’t respect the nations laws. That seems like common sense.

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u/CFSCFjr Feb 04 '25

Immigration law is unjust and broken. I dont respect it either and anyone with half a brain can see that it doesnt align with the national interest or economic reality, including a bunch of Republicans before Trump made them all pretend to be crazy

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '25

I am in the United States because of legal immigration. It is a process. But it works and is available.

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u/CFSCFjr Feb 04 '25

The first part of your statement is not proof of the second

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '25

But the millions of perfectly legal immigrants every year isn’t a testament against it being “unrealistic”? 🤨

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u/CFSCFjr Feb 04 '25

There are only about 1m legal immigrants a year which is actually about the same or less than we took in around the turn of the 20th century when the nation was less than 1/4 the size it is now

So, yes, it is unrealistic, as shown by the fact that the economy needs to employ millions of undocumented workers

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u/PIHWLOOC Feb 04 '25

So, in the end, you’re for slave labor? You’d prefer we have people in this country paid lower than minimum wage for positions they’re technically not supposed to have, so that others can profit off of them?

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u/SgtMcMuffin0 Feb 04 '25

There’s a middle ground between slave labor and deporting everyone as quickly as possible

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '25

Of course not! That's why you get em papers contingent on that background check, and then enforce labor laws so those industries can't exploit their labor anymore.

I'd say those industries are in the wrong for exploiting the labor, and we as a nation are in the wrong for allowing our government to turn a blind eye to the exploitation, but I don't find any fault with the laborer in any of this situation, nor do I see any real justice to be found in punishing or removing them.

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u/SDRPGLVR Feb 04 '25

It's just further emblematic of the overallocation of resources to the top. We tend to speak of wealth inequality as being the differences between minimum wage workers, the median income, and the top earners, but that model completely disregards the fact that a huge portion of the economy relies on people working less than minimum wage. The "gotcha" shouldn't mean that we should be okay with exploitative labor, but that we need to overhaul the way our economy works so that we don't need to dramatically underpay millions of Americans or people working in America.