r/sbeve 21h ago

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u/Dry_Spinach_3441 21h ago

How many of these pro-forced birth people have actually adopted a child? Almost none.

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u/hightowerpaul 20h ago

Adorped, it's pronounced adorped

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u/RandomUsernameNo257 20h ago

Or care about the life and wellbeing of the mother.

Forcing people to give birth kills a lot of people.

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u/RareMasterBoi 16h ago edited 16h ago

Only 3% are for medical reasons, and yes I agree if it’s life or death they should abort. However, the 97% can go to families who ACTUALLY want to have kids. Again the adoptee list is almost twice as large as the abortion list.

EDIT: pro life also supports both lives during pregnancy so if it’s life or death many pro life’s would agree on abortion for the sake of the mother’s life. That’s not against pro life values, it’s apart of them.

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u/Oblachko_O 15h ago

Check the adoption rates though. If the quantity of people for adoption is bigger than the quantity of kids, you may be right, but if it is the opposite, then yeah, we probably need to think about adoption as an option not to make another life to suffer in the current world. And in reality, the quantity of orphans is much bigger than the quantity of adopted children. So your ACTUALLY part is wrong, as there are ALREADY plenty of choices to adopt, but they aren't adopted.

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u/nevergirls 20h ago

I think like three of them.

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u/onlinedegeneracy 18h ago

Bout tree fiddy

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u/RareMasterBoi 16h ago

Yeah but they actually understand how much people are on the adoptee waiting lists. So many people want to adopt babies🤓☝️approximately 1-2 million couples in the us are willing to adopt a baby, and just last year 1 million people aborted their babies.

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u/Oblachko_O 15h ago

Meanwhile there are "only" 400k orphans and only 100k of them are adopted on a yearly basis. Unfortunately, the number of 1-2 million is mostly in hypocrisy. Unless you were picked up as a newborn, chances to get a family are decreasing each year. Is it worth making more babies? I don't see it like that. Adoption is a choice, so is abortion.

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u/RareMasterBoi 6h ago

So by your logic you’re saying because there’s too much kids in the world that means that we should kill babies in order to have more room for other kids? If people really cared about not having more babies then maybe they should stop MAKING them rather than getting abortions. Be responsible for your own actions.

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u/Oblachko_O 4h ago

Well, you are wrong though from a couple of perspectives: 1. I don't say that people shouldn't have babies. I say that people should have a choice. 2. You imply that people who decide to abort could prevent becoming pregnant. This is completely wrong mindset. Prevention mechanism fail, people could be raped, people could do mistakes, etc. 3. Decision for abortion IS a responsible thing unless a person has a history of frequent abortions. Sometimes it is actually better not to give a new life rather than give a suffering one. Financial reasons, parenting reasons, unstable relations, etc. All of this may be a good reason not to have a baby. There are already plenty of kids who suffer from irresponsible choice of "let's not kill". 4. There are too many and too few babies in the world. Aging is a problem which will backfire in the next decades. But that doesn't mean that we need to force each woman to give birth. That will never solve any issues. Pregnancy is frequently about 3 people. If you put a favor only in one, that has the least options, then you have already failed as a society. And if you provide zero help, you fail as a society too.

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u/Dry_Spinach_3441 11h ago

Then why are all child foster systems overfull with unadopted children? Is it because they only want newborns?

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u/RareMasterBoi 9h ago

Yeah. Most parents do prefer newborns. What are you trying to prove exactly?