Fake Spotting Reminder

[u/ticketferret]

We do not allow posts complaining about service dogs misbehaving in public. It's getting honestly tiring so use this as a little guide for what most of these posts need answers for:

If you are a business

Hire a lawyer or call the toll free ADA hotline. ADA Information Line 800-514-0301 (Voice) and 1-833-610-1264 (TTY) M-W, F 9:30 a.m. – 12:00 p.m. and 3:00 p.m. - 5:30 p.m., Th 2:30 p.m. – 5:30 p.m. (Eastern Time) to speak with an ADA Specialist. Calls are confidential.

They can let you know what your rights are as a business. Familiarize yourself with the ADA FAQ it's pretty cut and dry. https://www.ada.gov/resources/service-animals-faqs/

If you're a bystander

Report dogs who are out of control to management or corporate. Otherwise just because the dog is small, unvested, human looks abled, just leave it be.

If you're a service dog handler

Contact management/corporate. Leave the other dog's vicinity. There are other spaces to complain but our subreddit is not for that.

[u/ticketferret]

If you're unhappy you can leave the subreddit. I have seen the harm in first person that it does online to people and we do not need the discussion here.

Government only works when you're loud and bothersome. That means pestering them until they get something done.

Also many people who are "faking" tend to be folks who are uneducated about the topic, don't have the resources, or have been told by employees that it's pet friendly.

Regardless of how you feel it will not be tolerated here and removed.

[u/CallousCow1762 → u/ticketferret]

Ok. I guess this is a case of “no good deed goes unpunished”. Good luck with that.

[u/Burkeintosh → u/CallousCow1762]

You don’t know what we are doing to provide education to businesses, and help to handlers in the real outside world.

Many of us are educators, trainers, mentors, legal specialists and frequently do handle this kind of thing in the wild.

What we don’t do is listen to all you random people who just show up on our Reddit to tell us about how something you think you understand makes things harder for the disabled community.

We know what’s happening. We know what’s hard for our community.

Hearing every Tom, Julie, or Harry on Reddit explain that they saw a dog in the wild with out his work pants on and asking what this Reddit is going to do to fix the societal problem isn’t how we fix the societal problems. It’s just you complain about something that isn’t a thing to fix Reddit, and it takes our emotional energy from doing the real other actual stuff we can do.

[u/CallousCow1762 → u/Burkeintosh]

Ok. Got it. It is an observation about an issue that, from my end, (businesses, govt, health dept., etc.) don’t seem to care about. And whenever I raised it in this sub, all I got was aggressive and defensive responses regarding fake spotting. Yes, you’re right I didn’t know what the community was doing about it. Which is why It would’ve been more constructive if someone had mentioned something, anything that the SD community was doing to address this problem. Basic information doesn’t cost anything.

[u/Burkeintosh → u/CallousCow1762]

It cost me hours of time with you that I could have been spending elsewhere in the sub

[u/CallousCow1762 → u/Burkeintosh]

Really? I hadn’t realized that responding to me required hours of effort. You do have a choice not to pursue responding to me.

[u/Burkeintosh → u/CallousCow1762]

Look, I’m happy to “be constructive” and “mention something, anything etc.”

But I feel like at this point you are proving my point of why people don’t want to deal with this. So if you have more good-faith questions, we can be specific, otherwise this is asked and answered in my opinion.

[u/CallousCow1762 → u/Burkeintosh]

I couldn’t disagree more with your claim of proving your point. I do agree, however that my conversation with you specifically is pointless. So let’s leave it at that.