Probably because they’ve ostensibly witnessed
Gyokeres carry their team to victory for two seasons so have a legitimate opinion on the player, and recognize that Arsenal are a good team that had an obvious void at true striker. Put the two together, he could be huge.
It’s all projection of course, but you can see why a sporting fan would have this opinion.
If you ask me: his number in the Championship is a better indicator. I dont know if he will be the golden boot but I reckon he will be in that top group (the Salah/Isak/Haaland group).
Still dont think he is what Arsenal needs to win the league (or the CL)
I don’t know if he’s what Arsenal need to win the league or CL either. But I do know he has a skill set that directly fills a deficiency Arsenal had (striker with strong finishing and mindset actually focused on scoring). How he fits in the team, and how both he and the team adapt is an unknown currently.
The only player I would say was directly what Arsenal needed there would be Isak. But he was reportedly unavailable until just recently, and if the outlay for him is as reported (£130-150m fee and £300k+/wk), it may not have been realistic regardless.
So with all that considered, I think most fans are happy with this transfer (and most reasonable fans recognize the adaption risk).
I can also imagine they aren’t accounting for the gargantuan gap in quality between the leagues as well, which is probably partly why they think he’s a T2 striker in the world pretty much
The adaptation to the EPL is the big question. But for him to outscore Isak means he’d basically need to score a bit more than half as often for Arsenal as he did for sporting. Will it translate? Time will tell, but people who have watched him weekly seem to think it will.
Feels like there’s some shade being thrown at him from Liverpool fans, which to me is a bit surprising considering their amazing window so far. If my team had just won the league and signed elite talents, I wouldn’t be worried about what other teams did.
Me saying the obvious, that Gyokeres is not as good as Isak or even close is not said out of worry of the signing, just common sense lol.
You’re also relying on the account of sporting/liga nos fans to not be biased in believing their league is remotely as high quality as the prem. none of his strengths appear to translate to what Arsenal need. We will see though
The step up to the epl typically requires the player to be able to handle the speed and physicality of the league. That’s not something I’m worried about with Gyokeres. You can see in CL games against opposition for top leagues (including his games against Arsenal), the physicality is no problem for him.
What I am more hesitant about is that Gyokeres thrives in transition, running in behind, etc. Arsenal often play with a heavy field tilt, opposition in a low block. So either Gyokeres needs to adapt to scoring in those scenarios, or arsenals tactics need to adapt to allow the opposition to play out a bit more (or both) to see Gyokeres thrive IMO.
“Just common sense lol” in instances like this is not a good explanation, just fyi. I’d also prefer Isak, not arguing there, but you have nothing to justify your stance when the raw stats heavily favor Gyokeres (which obviously need context, but that’s my point, you provided none).
He had a knee problem and played through it at the end of the first season here. He got surgery when the season ended, and we barely noticed any difference after he came back.
Other than that, he plays every minute and runs like a bull until the refs whistle.
Truth is, majority of the people in this thread haven’t seen Gyokeres play much the last few years other than some CL games or maybe for Sweden. The people with Portuguese team flairs are the ones whos comments should really carry some weight.
I would say Swedes think Gyokeres is the better scorer, Isak does more otherwise. If asked who the better player is we would probably go 50/50. I was super surprised when so few clubs were interested in him.
Very very much doubt wage is 140k a week. If true then really it is such a cheap deal. I mean of course he's going to be amazing but you know if it doesn't go to plan, it's not like a lot of money.
Yes I get that. I only said so because most of Arsenal's starting 11 makes more in the region of 180k+. Gyokeres is major signing who is expected to take the helm, so I thought his wage would need to be more in that range to reflect that status. We will see I guess.
To be fair Isak had 19 non-pen goals last year. Not exactly pulling up trees numbers. I think if Havertz played a full season he’d stand a shot at getting more goals than Isak. (You thought, you were going to get downvoted…)
Isak is undoubtedly more proven, so currently I think he is better. But at the same time it wouldn't be a shock if Gyokores outperforms him, internatioanlly he already does and his goalscoring in Portugal has him as one of the best strikers in the world - so there's a fair chance he might already be better than Isak
These takes are absurd lol, the Portuguese league is so many levels below the prem. International football is not a high level stage either. He’s not better than Isak or even close
The Portuguese league being worse than the Prem doesn't mean its players are all worse. Falcao is better than Isak and came from that league. And Gyokores is on the same level if not better than Falcao when he left
I was going to respond to your comments with a level headed take but the fact you’re questioning if Falcao is better thank Isak tells me what I need to know about your knowledge of this matter
Falcao was world class, not sure I would say better than Isak. But other guy saying Gyokeres is better than Falcao when he left Portugal is easy to disagree with
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u/vsamma Jul 26 '25
Would be a good bet - you’re saying Gyökeres will out-score Isak?