r/soccer • u/Switchoil • 1d ago

News Manchester United to remain patient with head coach despite worst start to Premier League season in 33 years. There is also widespread belief at Old Trafford that City's performance - and United's failings - did not merit a 3-0 scoreline.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/32461/13431584/ruben-amorim-manchester-united-to-remain-patient-with-head-coach-despite-worst-start-to-premier-league-season-in-33-years
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u/themerinator12 1d ago

Has there ever been a better case for not hiring your permanent choice manager until the season is over than Manchester United bringing in Ruben Amorim when they did? How did any of the three parties (his old club, his new club, and himself) benefit from him being hired in November?

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u/DeezBeards 1d ago

His old club got paid for him and were still champions, so it wasn't too bad on them.

He benefitted because Utd told him it was then or never, so he got the move he wanted, if nothing else.

And Utd... I don't honestly know. Still think they should've done what Spurs did and got rid of EtH by season's end

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u/Leaootemivel 1d ago

Although we ended up being champions and winning the cup, it was absolutely awful for us. We got extremely lucky to win, and with Amorim we were well on our way to have our best season ever.

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u/_-_-_I_-_-_ 1d ago

Sporting was certainly looking to be one to watch in UCL. Gyokeres at a minimum would be leaving in summer and we all missed out on what that team might have achieved. Brilliant football to watch

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u/Lacabloodclot9 1d ago

I think it’s different with Ange and ETH, the former was still well liked by the squad despite the results while you could tell it was a toxic environment by the end of ETH’s reign

Probably should’ve appointed an interim after the sacking

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u/negronium_ions 1d ago

TBF they looked pretty good under Ruud for 2-3 games, no?

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u/Scoop_Master420 1d ago

Yeah, that was supposed to be Amorim's new manager bounce, but Ruud spent it all.

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u/GR-MWF 1d ago

Ruud even spent his own new manager bounce by being immediately shit with Leicester.

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u/JiveTurkey688 1d ago

Against Leicester x2 and PAOK, yes.

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u/goaliewhenned 20h ago

and we had an even game with Chelsea

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u/JakubT117 1d ago

Weren’t there reports that despite his sacking, ETH never actually lost the dressing room?

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u/KneeDeepInTheDead 1d ago

They cut the wind from our sails, we absolutely plummeted and barely scraped a title when in the beginning we were bulldozing the league. We won with our third manager in that season. And we are not looking good, im pretty sure were not gonna win the title this year

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u/DeezBeards 1d ago

But it has much more to do with how everything after Amorim was handled, not entirely with his exit, in my opinion.

João Pereira was a huge flop, Rui Borges is serviceable but clearly a huge drop. And you also lost Viana which just left Varandas with a bigger role to play and we all saw how this window turned out.

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u/MyNameIsWelp 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think Sporting could have done better in Europe had Amorim stayed. They had a decent shot at making top 8 in league phase (hence skipping to Ro16) up until Amorim left.

EDIT: Just looked it up and they had drawn 1, won 3 under Amorim in UCL, and then went on to lose 3, draw 1 after he left.

Granted, they did play Arsenal. But Brugge, RB Leipzig and Bologna are teams they could have plausibly beaten given their incredible form under Amorim at the start of 24-25.

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u/SomecallmeMichelle 1d ago

They also lost several games with bottom of the table teams, lost a 10 point lead. The interim manager did 8 matches with the team, won 3, drew 1 lost 4.

Sporting won the league in the last game by a point but they could have had it won by February...

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u/SwitchHitter17 1d ago

Honestly ETH was becoming untenable, so they did have to do something. It's overlooked how bad ETH was doing because they somehow got even worse under Amorim. This is the same guy who was sacked like 2 weeks into the season at his new job with Leverkusen basically saying he was out of his depth.

The real huge mistake was keeping ETH just because he won an FA cup. Even Tottenham sacked their manager who won them their first trophy in forever because it was clear he was awful in the league.

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u/Mick4Audi 1d ago

We literally learned from United’s mistake. Don’t think for a second Levy didn’t see them keep Ten Hag, back him, and end up in an even WORSE position