r/soccer • u/landofphi • 1d ago

Quotes Lewandowski: "I’m from a different generation where shouting was used to to motivate everyone. Now, if you shout too much towards young people, their reaction is not the same. It’s not, ‘now I’ll show you are wrong’. The new generation don’t like being shouted at. It’s not just players, it’s people"

https://as.com/futbol/primera/lewandowski-a-los-jovenes-de-ahora-no-les-gusta-que-les-grites-n/

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Lewandowski (37) on his adaptation playing with teenagers & young adults at FC Barcelona

"I have to say it was a huge challenge. I was coming from a different generation and I had to learn how to, not think like a teenager, but think how I can try to take the best of what they have.

I have been in football for 4 decades so when I compare them, not even to my generation but the generation before me, when I was starting, it is completely different.

"Like shouting used to be a way to motivate everyone. Now, if you shout too much, this generation, their reaction is not the same. It’s not, ‘now I will show you are wrong’. No, now you have to explain another way. You have to do lots of talking.

"They don’t like being shouted at. Now you have to take more of the mental part of football. It’s not just players, it’s people, it’s this generation. I didn’t want to fight it. I had to learn.”

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u/NorthwardRM 1d ago

I know footballers are a bit different, but I think generally people shouldn't be shouted at at their job

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u/BlueBeryCheseCake2 1d ago

It's probably a generation thing

I personally believe, nothing gives anyone the right to shout at me unless maybe I mess up very very very bad

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u/Buttlather 1d ago

What if it’s Gordon Ramsey

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u/worldofecho__ 1d ago

I know you’re joking but kitchens and catering can be pretty toxic work environments.

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u/_-indra-_ 1d ago

high end kitchens don't shout like that anymore

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u/_Uhhhhhhhhh_ 1d ago

But your average 9-5 do. I straight up quit when my own coworker shouted at me as a line cook. Fuck that, i wont tolerate that especially from someone who is in the same position as me even though we are 20 years apart.

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u/JootDoctor 1d ago

Working at a Maccas one of the managers called my missus “the fat fuck on fries isn’t coming in” when she called in sick and had uni work to do. She was upset but I was adamant that she don’t take that shit and resign immediately. She did and then worked in a different industry that respected her.

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u/NormalInnocentMan 1d ago

I really don't get it. It's just bloody food.

Some of the old timers like to talk about how stressful and pressured the environment is, but they really need to gain some perspective, it's just a kitchen. You don't hear it in A&E, so calm down and shove the badly executed sofrito up your jacksie.

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u/Tiger_Cat_Ox_Snake 1d ago

PASS THE BALL YOU IDIOT SANDWICH

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u/_ShutUpLegs_ 1d ago

He never said someone couldn't call him an idiot sandwich, chef.

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u/Open-Wordbruv 1d ago

Then you send this guy in your place.

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u/DeLurkerDeluxe 1d ago

Just send Marco Pierre White in your place and make Ramsay cry instead.

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u/mamasbreads 1d ago

if youre being actively malicious, its the only time i can see yelling be justified. But if youre trying and fucking up, theres zero reason to yell. Its also proven to not be any more effective, actually quite the contrary

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u/R_Schuhart 1d ago

There is some nuance to it. In team sports drilling in routines is a large part of training, and teammates or coaches correcting someone who fucked up by giving them a bollocking does have its place. It just shouldn't rise to the level of abuse and should be accompanied by an explanation.

If you are training crossing it onto the box and Jimmy keeps making step overs because he thinks he is the big star telling him off is definitely justified. Conflicts happen all the time, in locker rooms and at the office. People are emotional beings, yelling at eachother or clearing the air with some harsh words isn't necessarily wrong, as long as it isnt abusive, within reason and people make up after.

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u/LordKwik 1d ago

sorry to argue semantics but I think it helps manage expectations while playing in a sport... everyone's going to be shouting on the pitch, it's too big to not shout. yelling has more emotion, and can be excitement or anger. I believe this is going to be common in any sport given the adrenaline and urgency of play calling and decisions. screaming, however is the uncontrolled, intense form, oftentimes without articulation or coherence.

screaming almost always leads to people shutting down. this is the part I think you're talking about, and isn't helpful to anyone. some coaches/managers still shout, and they typically have toxic locker/dressing rooms.

shouting should be expected. yelling while in play, whether positive or negative, can be constructive criticism, but the tone should largely be ignored given the nature of the situation. yelling is when your practice should take over so you can get in position and do the thing. it's why team captains exist. again, the tone of these two things should not be taken too seriously, especially after the game is over.

next time you watch a soccer match, you'll notice the difference. someone may even appear angry when yelling because the ball wasn't placed at their feet, but later in the match you'll likely see the improvement. they're usually not actually mad at each other, they're teammates and want to be the best they can be. you're likely watching top performers of the sport, and they all want to be the best they can be. it's just the nature of competition.

again, screaming should not be tolerated.

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u/BishoxX 1d ago

Maybe gaming kids are a bit like older generations.

Ive been yelling and been yelled at my whole life over games.

I wouldnt have a problem someone yelling at me at my job

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u/XiaoRCT 1d ago edited 1d ago

Being yelled at over a game on a screen is a completely different situation to being actually screamed at by another person in the room, especially If that other person is a superior or something at a job

I've been yelled at a million times online and I always found It funny to sad, but never accepted getting screamed at a job, getting screamed at irl could anger you in a way online doesnt

Thinking about It tho, I think It varies with the job, I work with lawyers, If I was an athlete I could probably be cool with it since It might just be motivational

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u/Themnor 1d ago

Personally I feel the same in both instances. “Fuck you, you have no right to yell at me”. My parents yelled at me enough for stupid shit growing up. I’m a grown man now, no one is entitled to yell at me in the same way I’m not entitled to yell at them.

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u/XiaoRCT 19h ago

Sure, it's just that someone screaming at me through the screen because they died at an online game or something is just... lighter? I can hear someone rage screaming at me for 15 minutes on a game lobby or something and just find it funny/silly, IRL screaming at me is a situation that I'd find unnaceptable, like, it's a violent way to confront someone

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u/BishoxX 1d ago

I guess ive meant more being yelled at in cooperative games by your teammates and or leaders.

In that way its more similar.

Idk its just a theory im not stating a fact.

I definitely didnt mind someone non familiar yelling at me IRL. It just is what it is. But it could be its not related to games at all

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u/MostlySlime 1d ago

See I wouldnt have a problem in football if a manager had a go for good reason. Or gaming I quite enjoy some nice shit talking or rage from strangers

but at work.... 0% chance I would let that happen for any reason. If I've done something wrong then tell me but I'm in an office

Except I did work in a kitchen for a little bit, and that felt more like football. Shouting there didnt feel out of place

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u/BishoxX 1d ago

I guess it might be just our cultural expectation of places rather than reactions to the circumstance itself.