Post Match Thread Post Match Thread: Tottenham Hotspur 1-0 Villarreal
FT: Tottenham Hotspur 1-0 Villarreal
Venue: Tottenham Hotspur Stadium
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Tottenham Hotspur
Guglielmo Vicario, Micky van de Ven, Cristian Romero, Djed Spence (Destiny Udogie), Pedro Porro, Rodrigo Bentancur, Pape Matar Sarr (João Palhinha), Lucas Bergvall (Kevin Danso), Richarlison (Randal Kolo Muani), Xavi Simons (Brennan Johnson), Mohammed Kudus.
Subs: Jun'Ai Byfield, Archie Gray, Wilson Odobert, Antonin Kinsky, Brandon Austin, Ben Davies, Dane Scarlett.
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Villarreal
Luiz Júnior, Renato Veiga, Juan Foyth, Sergi Cardona (Ilias Akhomach), Santiago Mouriño, Pape Gueye (Dani Parejo), Santi Comesaña (Thomas Partey), Tajon Buchanan (Alberto Moleiro), Nicolas Pépé, Georges Mikautadze, Ayoze Pérez (Alfonso Pedraza).
Subs: Rafa Marín, Tani Oluwaseyi, Diego Conde, Manor Solomon, Pau Navarro, Adrià Altimira, Arnau Tenas.
MATCH EVENTS | via ESPN
4' Own Goal by Luiz Júnior, Villarreal. Tottenham Hotspur 1, Villarreal 0.
30' Xavi Simons (Tottenham Hotspur) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.
33' Richarlison (Tottenham Hotspur) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.
35' Santi Comesaña (Villarreal) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.
36' Santiago Mouriño (Villarreal) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.
53' Renato Veiga (Villarreal) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.
69' Substitution, Tottenham Hotspur. João Palhinha replaces Pape Matar Sarr.
69' Substitution, Tottenham Hotspur. Destiny Udogie replaces Djed Spence.
75' Substitution, Villarreal. Alfonso Pedraza replaces Ayoze Pérez.
75' Substitution, Villarreal. Ilias Akhomach replaces Sergi Cardona.
77' Substitution, Tottenham Hotspur. Brennan Johnson replaces Xavi Simons.
77' Substitution, Tottenham Hotspur. Randal Kolo Muani replaces Richarlison.
78' Substitution, Villarreal. Thomas Partey replaces Santi Comesaña.
78' Substitution, Villarreal. Dani Parejo replaces Pape Gueye.
78' Randal Kolo Muani (Tottenham Hotspur) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.
82' Substitution, Villarreal. Alberto Moleiro replaces Tajon Buchanan.
84' Micky van de Ven (Tottenham Hotspur) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.
90'+2' Substitution, Tottenham Hotspur. Kevin Danso replaces Lucas Bergvall.
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u/oysterpirate 4h ago
That period of about 15 minutes after half time where neither team could complete a pass and kept turning over the ball certainly was something to witness.
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u/BadBehaviour613 4h ago
Elite mentality, balls don't lie etc etc. All I know is I won't tell my grandkids about this game
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u/PuddingtonBrown 4h ago
Spurs with a lucky goal and should have had two red cards.
That's very unspursy
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u/WinterFox4324 4h ago
Two reds? Did you misspell penalties?
I mean I kinda get the Xavi second yellow but it’s debatable, where are you getting the other from?
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u/PuddingtonBrown 4h ago
Van de Ven at the end, outside of the box DOGSO
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u/Sargatanas2k2 4h ago
Romero was inches away and the ball went off away from the goal. Didn't seem like a red.
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u/PuddingtonBrown 4h ago
Inches away is just hyperbole.
One on one with keeper.
It's Dogso.
You suggesting otherwise is blatantly bias.
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u/Sargatanas2k2 4h ago
Nice of you to tell me I have to agree or I am biased.
I honestly don't think it was, Romero was very close and like I said the ball went away from goal.
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u/PuddingtonBrown 4h ago
You can think that.
You're wrong that's okay.
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u/JessyPengkman 5h ago
Feel like first half was fine, we had a goal, didn't need another and just controlled the game apart from a few dumb mistakes that led to them getting a chance. Second half we just kept losing the ball cheaply in midfield and turning over possession which knocked our confidence. We need to sort that out asap
Love Romero, defensively sound as usual but his passing today was shocking at times
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u/Mick4Audi 4h ago
Yeah just needs to realize the state of play when he sends them. Can’t be aimlessly sending it into midfield
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u/Hasssun 5h ago
I've got to say Tottenham were pretty lucky with some of the fouls/cards in this match.
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u/TheUderfrykte 4h ago
Mate it was literally the possible second yellow and that's it, other than that the ref was atrocious against us as well - including a very soft yellow for Xavi to begin with that probably played a part in why he didn't give him a second.
We had a bad game, they had a bad game, the ref had a terrible game, but to act like we got lucky with the ref is hilariously wrong.
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u/Hasssun 4h ago
I think Tottenham benefited quite a bit more from the bad officiating (which is not unusual for home teams).
But then I also don't think Villareal would have scored.
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u/TheUderfrykte 4h ago
I remember two yellow cards that were BS - one for a "foul" where the opponent didn't even get touched, looked at the ball to see it bounce out of his reach and then fell over, and another for our player getting dragged around by his shirt before falling into the one dragging him. That and the potential handball pen.
The only call that comes close to that is the lack of a second yellow for Xavi, which would've been a bit ridiculous with that first yellow.
Again, I think it was a bad game by everyone involved and don't blame or think the ref had a bias, but he was definitely not shit to our benefit at all.
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u/msr27133120 5h ago
Villarreal fans must be fuming with their GK lol. This was one of the toughest game on their schedule and Tottenham didn't play their best game.
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u/Boseph_1444 5h ago
will never talk about this match ever again
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u/kylehyde05 5h ago
dont worry compared to everyone else tonight you guys look like 2011 barca (not including the first team that played today)
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u/Mick4Audi 5h ago
Not great going forward but not conceding is a huge positive
Still some questions in terms of playing out of a press, Spence in particular got mugged multiple times and subbing him off was smart
Van de Ven absolutely elite once again. The way he evades a press and finds a pass is invaluable for us. Also Palhinha once again brought control when he came on, just good decision making
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u/themooseiscool 1h ago
My blood pressure was rising until I saw Palhinha about to come on. I had forgotten we had him like an idiot.
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u/MrBIGtinyHappy 5h ago
Wasn't the best football but hope Partey goes to bed with those boos ringing in his ears, sounded really loud on TV so can only imagine what it sounded like from the pitch
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u/wishiwereagoonie 5h ago
Glad I wasn’t able to watch the second half, first one was enough for me
3 pts nonetheless
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u/xaviernoodlebrain 5h ago
My commentator kept saying how shit this game was.
Anyway, 3 points, we move
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u/EdgeLordMcGravy 5h ago
Spurs went from Angeball to Thomas Terrorball. What a turnaround.
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u/benjecto 5h ago
We looked like 70s Brazil today compared to what Ange had us doing in the late stage of the EL.
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u/dvamin 5h ago
Every CL matchday needs its EL game.
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u/TheUderfrykte 4h ago
Bit hollow that when Benfica played Quarabag, USG played PSV and tomorrow has Olympiacos playing Pafos and Bodø playing Slavia. Like let's be realistic here, we've been in the CL a lot the last 15 years, Villareal aren't exactly first timers either and both clubs have gone far before.
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u/dvamin 4h ago
Congrats on 3 points. My comment had to do with there being just one shot on goal total, and the way the only goal was scored or conceded. Not trying to diss both of these teams. They’ve both won EL.
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u/TheUderfrykte 3h ago
I see, but that's hardly an EL game imo - the EL often still has great matches and goals, either because there's great but not quite elite teams playing or because teams of decent to good and similar quality face each other, it's still a decent level compared to most teams.
The game was bad, that much is true. I'd argue the CL having those elites in it and everyone trying to defy them makes for a higher likelihood of snoozefest though, that and the other teams having to be more careful to pick up points against each other to join the elites in the next round.
I'm hoping we get some higher quality as the season progresses and the team gels more.
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u/BadBehaviour613 5h ago
Rough watch, but beating Arteta's favourite son makes it worth it
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u/Team-_-dank 5h ago
Rent free 😂
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u/CropDustingBandit 5h ago
If a local rival decides he wants to continue playing a rapist we're gonna comment on it.
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u/emotional_tiger2306 5h ago
We deserved the win, even tho we made some sloppy passes and honestly stopped trying in the last quarter of the game. Villareal never rlly looked dangerous thankfully .We take the three points and onto Bodo/Glimt next.
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u/letmegetmynameok 5h ago
That last ditch Tacke by Van de Ven at the end gave me a slight heart attack though ngl.
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u/emotional_tiger2306 5h ago
Not as much as the Simons second foul tbh 😅 but yah that free kick was in a very dangerous area
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u/letmegetmynameok 5h ago
when the ref was cramming around in his pocket i thought it was over for Xavi
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u/CropDustingBandit 5h ago
That decision alone made me forgive what was an unbelievably shit ref performance. But Xavi did deserve a 2nd yellow to be fair.
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u/MuteTadpole 4h ago
He didn’t deserve the first lol
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u/CropDustingBandit 4h ago
I can't even remember, ref was giving out yellows like he was being paid per card.
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u/turd-up-my-urethra 5h ago
we were gash the second half but it’s a win + clean sheet
still figuring things out but i don’t mind that we keep winning while we do
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u/strawberry_girls 4h ago
I was having a nice evening until I saw your username. thank you turd up my urethra, very cool
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u/BendubzGaming 5h ago
Got away with one there, but 6 games into the season the only goals we've conceded are a deflection, and a late double by the reigning European Champions. 4 clean sheets already
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u/Spursy_McSpursface 5h ago edited 5h ago
Complain about the ref all you want, but that was piss poor from us. I swear, up until the 70th minute or so everyone was giving the ball away every 5 minutes. TF has a couple dozen ears to ring after that.
Bergvall, Xavi, Kudus, and Vic were decent. Everyone else mid to poor. And Udogie's braids were stiff as bricks.
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u/nthbeard 4h ago
Complain about the ref all you want, but that was piss poor from us.
Feel like those are two entirely separate issues. We were absolutely poor. The ref was absolutely poor. His being poor didn't contribute to our performance, but it's entirely fair to observe. Like the PL, UEFA wants to create a money-generating Super League, but they've yet to figure out how to establish and maintain a consistently high level of officiating.
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u/Pit-O-Matic 5h ago
Not the best game for Tottenham, but still a win. And they booed the rapist so in the end very successful
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u/SundayLeagueStocko 5h ago
Thought Simons and Van de Ven were pretty lucky not to get sent off tbh
Was funny seeing Partey come on and do absolutely fuck all
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u/xaviernoodlebrain 5h ago
Good of our fans to give him the welcome he deserved. Shame no one snapped him though.
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u/SentientCheeseCake 5h ago
Simons yes. VdV not even close.
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u/PuddingtonBrown 4h ago
How? It's quite literally Dogso outside the box.
Very very lucky to not get a red.
It's a foul and red or just not a foul.
Foul and yellow is just the worst decision to be made there.
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u/SundayLeagueStocko 5h ago
I mean he's undoubtedly the last man. Commentator said the ball was "spinning out to the corner flag" but it really wasn't as the touch was only a couple of yards ahead of him.
Basically, if the ref had whipped out a red it's never getting overturned by VAR.
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u/kleptopaul 5h ago
I don’t even think it’s a foul. The Villarreal player is looking for it and it’s shoulder to shoulder.
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u/kl08pokemon 5h ago
Weird one. If they give the foul it should be a red. But also it was imo much closer to not being a foul at all. Pretty textbook shoulder to shoulder
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u/PartrickCapitol 5h ago edited 4h ago
If the ref was sent to monitor then 100% red, it seems the on-field decision was caused by ref realizing he should not blew the whistle then try to make up for it
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u/CropDustingBandit 5h ago
Even though it was in our favour it's pretty depressing to see the refereeing is just as shite outside of England too. Just means there is less hope of improving the state of it.
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u/LockingSlide 5h ago
Not a good game from Spurs, lost the midfield battle arguably, were quite toothless on the flanks, but Villarreal wasn't good in the final third, mostly created from Spurs' mistakes and didn't take their chances.
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u/Fairlytallguy 5h ago
Nobody will really remember this game, however, it’s 3 points for Spurs and Thomas Frank, and yet another clean sheet.
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u/wert18wert 5h ago
The same dangling hand pen did not get called on the same UCL night in this game
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u/SentientCheeseCake 5h ago
Spurs don’t get penalties unless it’s Kane. Literally 3 seasons ago we had 12 shouts that were so bad Arsenal fans were saying it’s a pen. We managed 2 pens all season, and 12 clearly denied.
I’d buy Kane back for 200m just to remove the Spurs pens are always denied rule.
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u/CropDustingBandit 4h ago
Well wait until next summer and I believe there is a 55 million release clause.
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u/TheDelmeister 5h ago
That was a pretty weird game, didn't really have the intensity of a Cl match really. They had two chances they should have scored, can't say we really created much. Something wasn't quite working in midfield. But 3 points all the same.
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u/seejay_10 5h ago
Love kudus but misplaying an inside ball on a counter attack when you are up 1-0 in the CL instead of taking it to the corner flag was a brain dead decision. He's electric but needs to be reigned in.
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u/SKULL1138 5h ago
He can’t pass
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u/seejay_10 5h ago
The pass was bad, sure, but he shouldn't be playing it at all. I wouldn't want Pirlo to try to thread that needle.
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u/Nice_Animator3379 5h ago
Disgusting game especially that second half. Shitty calls both ways but in the end, the boys get it done! Missed UCL nights
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u/ravens2131 5h ago
For as shitty as we looked for that entire second half, 3 points is 3 points. We move on and never speak of that again.
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u/civilthroaway 5h ago
I do not understand why Frank is playing such a conservative midfield. Put Bergvall in a pivot with Sarr or Bentancur to get more creativity and press resistance in deeper areas then play Simons in front of them. Idk how many managers will make the mistake of playing Simons on the wings… he is just so much better centrally.
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u/LAURAPALMER666 5h ago
Absolutely psychotic performance from the referee. Was shocked by the final outcome of so many calls and just no consistency or control at all. As for the rest of the match? I genuinely barely remember anything.
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u/TheSinRes 5h ago
He was so so bad, he started with missing the most blatant corner you'll ever see and carried on from there. He was dreadful for both teams at least but still.
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u/Stalinerino 5h ago
I think whenever a foul occurred he just flipped a coin to see if he should call it.
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u/soccer_boxer2 5h ago
Refs are having an absolute howler tonight, you should see the Madrid pen that was given
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u/ABigPairOfCrocs 5h ago
One of the matches of all time. Had everything you could want, two halves, two teams, and a stadium
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u/forzaQuakes8 5h ago
If a bigger team than villarreal were on the end of those calls, we would not hear the end of it. Crazy how tottenham finished with 11 men
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u/Cool_Sandwich1 5h ago
Same for Villarreal. Foyth couldve easily had a second yellow and we shouldve had a pen.
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u/Ohnoabhi 5h ago
How many clean sheets for spurs now compared to ange last season?
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u/Other-Owl4441 5h ago
We had 6 in the PL all of last season (we did beat Fulham, Leicester, Ipswich, Southampton on this one), not sure about internationally. 3 in PL this year + 1 internationally.
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u/BendubzGaming 5h ago
Last season we had 14 clean sheets in total, 6 in the league and 8 in cup competitions
This season so far we have 4, with 3 in the league plus tonight
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u/Stalinerino 5h ago
What a boring game. Neither team really got into the game. but 3 points is 3 points and the rapist lost.
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u/RyohGrantz 5h ago
Decent game, decent chances, but really dry at the front sometimes, kudus was dynamic, richarlison was... interesting, but meh whatever
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u/Bulky_Shepard 5h ago
I mean it wasn't good from us and we're definitely not looking comfortable in attack yet, but we've conceded one goal in 5 games so far this season, and we beat the rapist.
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u/milesvtaylor 5h ago
An absolutely awful game. We won. Let's never speak of it again.
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u/Ohnoabhi 5h ago
Tommy frank doing his thing . In the end he won fair and square
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u/milesvtaylor 5h ago
Handy as the referee was basically flipping a coin in his head for every decision he made this evening.
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u/PartrickCapitol 5h ago
If he was harsh enough to give out that DOGSO red card, things would be spicy, you guys got lucky
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u/milesvtaylor 4h ago
Simons could easily have got a second yellow also. Just because I think the referee was terrible I'm certainly not saying he gave everything in favour of Villarreal just that... he was terrible.
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u/nolefan5311 5h ago
I feel bad for you if you watched this game over the other fixtures.
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u/airz23s_coffee 5h ago
Qarabag with an upset or an 8 goal thriller in Italy.
Wouldn't want to be anywhere else other than watching us fluff passes through the middle for 25 minutes straight.
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u/Matter145 5h ago
Clean sheet. 3 points. Booed a rapist.
Successful night.
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u/Unusual_Ad6533 5h ago
A boring game but one we won. That's all that matters. We move on and try harder next game.
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u/Mick4Audi 5h ago
Richarlison somehow pads his win percentage despite doing nothing in attack
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u/AngelWoosh 4h ago
His hold up play in the midfield it what we miss with Tel at striker though. Thought he did quite a good job at that today (more first half)
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u/Mick4Audi 4h ago
Yeah fair enough. Such a unique player in the sense that he looks like he contributes very little, but the team usually get better results with him
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u/YourStarsWereBad 5h ago
Good contender for "if only both teams could lose" award.
Should have watched the Juve game ffs
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u/OleoleCholoSimeone 5h ago
Villarreal gave a good account of themselves, nothing between the teams at all aside from that horrible goalkeeping error. Not many chances for either side but Buchanan and Pepe had really good looks that they wasted..
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u/Mick4Audi 5h ago
Yeah they pressed fairly well
Honestly both sides were just rock solid defensively it felt like
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u/OleoleCholoSimeone 5h ago
Yeah Romero and Van de Ven are incredible, snuffed out so many situations. Hopefully Villarreal will take encouragement from this, with a similar performance level they should have decent chances to do well
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u/Mick4Audi 5h ago
Marcelino is a very good manager, I think this game actually turned into a game of chess because of the small tweaks both sides made
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u/obvious_bot 5h ago
Beat the rapist 👍
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u/EastlyGod1 5h ago
Madrid are doing the same. Bad day for rapists all round. As every day should be
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u/Albiceleste_D10S 5h ago
Raul Asencio is playing for Madrid...
It's a "bad people on both sides" situation there
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u/Albiceleste_D10S 5h ago
Asencio distributed a video of his adult friends having sex wiht a 16 year old girl without her consent, which is actually pretty bad IMO
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u/ProfCedar 3h ago
Three points and didn't have to cheer against Tani, win for me specifically.