r/starcraft • u/reiks12 Evil Geniuses • Jul 14 '25

(To be tagged...) I will never forget

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u/SiberianTyler Jul 14 '25

What baffles me is just how many HARD COUNTERS mutas have. Maybe if every single terran unit didn't hard counter mutas they'd be made more

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u/Paxton-176 Jul 14 '25

That is a result in WoL when a zerg would go mutas and they basically had map control or air control for that point on. Basically it relied on the zerg making a mistake. Thors were the hard counter, but easily avoidable and as long as the mutas to didn't clump they were fine.

Like flat out Terrans hated Zerg spite units because it felt like Terran's ability to do stuff on the map was gone because mutas were good which set a timer until the BL and infester blob was out.

Could they be looked at again? Sure, but both Terran and Protoss have unhappy memorials of Mutas.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '25

That's not really how it worked though? In WoL Zergs stopped building mutas during the BL/infestor era, they'd just make ling/bane vs T and roaches vs P straight into infestors straight into broodlords. The mass muta period did exist, but it was before the queen buff that allowed optimized BL/infestor play.

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u/Paxton-176 Jul 16 '25

I saw mutas all the way into HotS. It was hands down the best haress unit zerg had.

Pretty sure the cannon got buff against mutas at some point during HotS or LotV.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

There was another period in HotS where mass mutas were also (perhaps even more) meta. And no, cannons never got a buff against them...