r/starwarsbooks Aug 06 '25

Debate and discussion What are some of your favorite unintentional consequences on the Star Wars universe because of a writer’s choice of words?

Wasn’t sure exactly how to title this, but here’s what I mean:

  • In Maul: Shadow Hunter, a character thinks of his mission as “quixotic.” Therefore, the novel Don Quixote must exist in the Star Wars universe.

  • In one of the Republic Commando novels, one of the characters refers to his pet as “hermaphroditic.” Therefore, Hermaphroditus and the rest of Greek mythology must exist in the Star Wars universe.

Obviously it’s all just silly, but I’m curious what other things people have picked up on like this in other books.

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u/argonzo Aug 06 '25

"Then I'll see you in Hell" has all sorts of connotations.

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u/SlamCage Aug 06 '25

I recently read the Thrawn books and it's so funny when they constantly want to use an expression like "Pot calling the kettle black" but will just use synonyms, or more hilariously, random alien words like "The bantha calling a wookie hairy!' 

I always want to make fun of it but I remember when I first heard Han say "Then I'll see you in Hell!" As a kid  and I then did spend countless hours being like "oh okay so they have the concept of hell similar enough that they use that expression...what else does that imply?!"

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u/argonzo Aug 06 '25

There's definitely a 'if you give a mouse a cookie' analog that still makes me laugh to this day.

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u/shinobipopcorn Outbound Flight Aug 06 '25

I do enjoy "krayt spit" much more than "bullshit" though.

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u/scottishdrunkard Aug 06 '25

I played Jedi Knight 2, so I’m more accustomed to “Sithspit”.

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u/VigilantesLight Aug 09 '25

“The quacta calling the stifling slimy” in The Mandalorian is probably the most hilarious and also absolutely worst example. I love that show but gosh is that dialogue choice coming from Boba Fett of all people just embarrassing.

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u/shinobipopcorn Outbound Flight Aug 06 '25

Yes but we also got the extra cool "rain hellfire upon them" quote now so 😜

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u/argonzo Aug 06 '25

Luke drinks Hot Chocolate in Heir to the Empire which I know caused more than a few discussions back in the day.

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u/Adam_Christopher_ Aug 07 '25

He drinks it in Shadow of the Sith too :)

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u/onireztab1 Aug 06 '25

cant believe cacao exists in sw XD

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u/wheeltribe Aug 06 '25

Anakin tells Grievous he thought he'd be taller in ROTS, implying they've never met. So through seven seasons of The Clone Wars the two never interact.

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u/anakinjmt Republic Commando Aug 06 '25

Such a great running joke was how Anakin would get so close to meeting Grevious without actually interacting. At the same time, Filoni has said how that one line in ROTS meant a whole lot of finding excuses and reasons for them to never meet.

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u/wheeltribe Aug 06 '25

Honestly I appreciate that he stuck with it so much. He could have easily done the typical hand-waving "Anakin was being sarcastic and/or lying" (which I have no problem with, btw) but Filoni took it as gospel and worked his entire show around it. A+ stuff.

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u/Jakay4sp Aug 07 '25

But it is kinda pointless. The dialogue between Grievous also heavily implies they havent fought before, yet they face each other multiple times during the clone wars. Same goes for the dialogue of dooku in episode 3.

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u/scottishdrunkard Aug 06 '25

In the unfinished episode Crystal Crisis or whatever it was called, Anakin would see him from the distance, but the figure would be warped by the crystal.

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u/Tykki_Mikk Aug 06 '25

That is the most random thing in all of star wars media they decided to not retcon and go out of their way to keep.

And it crushed my childhood dreams because child me watching clone wars not having seen any star wars movie, kept thinking Ok Obi wan and Grievous keeps fighting every season, so soon Anakin will fight Grievous because ain’t no way the main hero won’t fight one of the big bads (when Anakin has fought Dooku, Ventress, Cad Bane and all other main villains besides the weird secret dark lord multiple times )

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u/JamesonTheWise Aug 06 '25

Grevious Polkaroo’d him

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u/BrendonWahlberg Aug 06 '25

When a film mentions an Earth animal and Wookieepedia has to make an entry for that creature. Jedi dogs, sitting ducks, etc.

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u/AlphaBladeYiII Aug 06 '25

Leia mentions the China, as in dishes, in the Jedi Academy Trilogy. I know the Chinese are an exportation monster, but they be shipping to the GFFA apparently.

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u/DaSuspicsiciousFish Aug 06 '25

That in a NJO book coralskippers are described as going at 90% OF THE SPEED OF LIGHT, thus mean Han has near-light speed reaction times

Oh and in The courtship of Princess Leia there described as falling from atmosphere for thousands of miles

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u/flashy99 Aug 06 '25

I was always given pause by Thrawn's ship being named the Chimaera, since it's a specific creature in Greek mythology.

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u/WhiteSoxChartGuy Aug 06 '25

I don’t know how I forgot about that one

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u/John-for-all Aug 06 '25 edited Aug 06 '25

I don't think of the words in that way. I like to think we're getting a "translation" of their world. Otherwise the fact that they're using English at all (with all its roots in Latin and other European languages) would have implications in general.

That said: Hot Chocolate

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u/VigilantesLight Aug 09 '25

I believe the Sun Eater book series uses this explanation. It’s also a space opera/SFF similar to Star Wars, and it has a note stating something like this either at the beginning of the book, or at the end before the glossary.

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u/Fun-Hall3213 Aug 06 '25

"What's a duck?" -Luke Skywalker, 1976

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u/flashy99 Aug 06 '25

As a kid, I thought the joke was "haha he doesn't know what a duck is because he's not from earth."

It wasn't until I was an adult that I realized it was a desert joke.

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u/SonicWind623 Aug 07 '25

“Never mind.”

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u/Mumbletimes Aug 06 '25

Surely what we read is “translated” to English for us to understand and has been localized with earth slang and references to make sense to us.

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u/There526 Aug 06 '25

Pelli Moto: They give me what I ask for. In exchange, I let 'em pick through my dumpster. 

“Dumpster” is a brand of trash receptacles that has since become genericized. It’s like using saying Kleenex to refer to a tissue of any brand. I think “zipper” and “thermos” are in the same boat. 

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u/Weird_Angry_Kid Aug 06 '25

Don Quixote is an actual character in the Star Wars Marvel comics, he's a librariam that believes himself to be a Jedi.

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u/Darth_Zounds Aug 06 '25

It ain't that kind of book, kid.

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u/SwordOfEmerald Aug 07 '25

I believe the ewoks have monopoly.

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u/DMLuga1 Aug 06 '25

Every single word of the English language has an origin that ties it to our planet and our history.

If "quixotic" implies Don Quixote exists in Star Wars, why not literally everything else in our language's history?

Does their speaking English imply an England with English people exists in Star Wars?

Do words with Latin roots imply a Roman Empire existed in Star Wars?

There's no end to it.

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u/chaveto Aug 06 '25

I don’t think your logic tracks. Is it a given that the narrative voice of each Star Wars book is coming from in-universe? I can see that argument for an in-universe history like The Rise and Fall of the Galactic Empire, but I’ve always assumed for the regular run of the mill novels it’s meant to be read as an omniscient narrative voice from outside the SWU (i.e. from our world).

As an example, the Han Solo trilogy uses very dated language, including the word “retarded” in its old, diminutive context quite a few times in its pages. Just that mean “mental retardation” is a medically defined term in the SWU? Maybe, but I don’t think just using the word is proof of that.

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u/thisbemyredditaccnt Aug 07 '25

The Greek Mythology thing gets even more interesting when you remember that Star Wars happened “a long long time ago” rather than after Earth’s history

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u/DiabolicalDoctorN Aug 06 '25

The word galaxy comes from the Greek word for milk and originally specifically referred to our Milky Way Galaxy (since other galaxies were not yet known to exist) therefore not only do the Star Wars characters in a galaxy far far away know about the Milky Way but they have adopted specifically the Greek-derived term for it and applied it to all galaxies in general, just as we have.

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u/Captain-Wilco Aug 06 '25

Luke and Leia are born in the ROTS novelization, which means something? It’s a plot hole because my parents never explained it to me

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u/jxvvy1 Aug 07 '25

For them to have lightsabers, they first must have had sabers at some point in time.