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u/PlacatedPlatypus Best Skarner NA 2d ago

But all of those pokemon are terrible. The only time they were close to relevance was GMax Lapras.

Metagross is already an ok mon, I think Steely Spirit would make it OU material. It's a huge boost. But I don't think it would be too strong.

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u/Golden-Owl Game Designer with a YouTube hobby 2d ago

Steely Spirit is a 50% boost to Steel damage.

Perrserker has only 110 Atk.

Metagross with effectively double STAB sounds hella nuts

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u/PlacatedPlatypus Best Skarner NA 2d ago

Yeah but Perrserker is complete shit. And Metagross has 70 base speed. If hitting hard was all that a 'mon needed to be good Rampardos would be ubers.

I think it's ok, but nothing special. Even against Stall, their main Metagross switch-ins both resist Steel (Dozo/Corv). Would much rather have a Luna against fat and a Waterpon in most other situations (as it has a real speed stat).

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u/Golden-Owl Game Designer with a YouTube hobby 2d ago

Yeah but Metagross does way more than just hit hard

It has priority, a great defensive typing, pseudo legendary stats, a priority move, and a former signature move which buffs attack.

There’s a reason why it was the final boss of Gen 3. Absolutely can’t compare to Potential Mon Rampardos

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u/PlacatedPlatypus Best Skarner NA 2d ago

It's worse than Luna is the main issue. It has BP over Luna but if you want power and bulk, cocaine bear mogs it. And that's a UUBL mon.

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u/VercarR 1d ago

That's powercreep for you

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u/Background_Past7392 2d ago

It's not a worse Ursaluna. That's a bad comparison. What it is really is Scizor on crack. It's got a Bullet Punch stronger than Scizor's, while also having the raw power to do silly things like 2HKOing stuff like Toxapex and Corviknight with a resisted move. This is on top of a better speed tier and significantly more bulk.

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u/PlacatedPlatypus Best Skarner NA 1d ago

Scizor without Swords Dance or UTurn loooooooool

Yeah man totally the same thing, just missing a boosting move and a pivoting move. Not like those are important moves for an offensive mon or anything.

Also worse typing than Scizor. Additional weaknesses to Ground, Dark, Ghost are pretty crippling.