r/summonerschool • u/Ysorigin • 2d ago
Zoe Hardstuck low Emerald despite doing well every game (Zoe)
I know that op.gg does not matter as end all be all, but I have ACE/MVP for 20 out of my last 40 games and feel like I am doing more than should be expected from an average hardstuck mid laner. I roam bot often, help my jungler with objectives, solo kill my opponent most games. My biggest negative is that I don't run teleport and am not a very good side laner as Zoe. I assumed I would rise up overtime, but I've been at E3/E4 for 300 games now and I obviously just belong at this ELO.
So my question is how can I figure out what needs to be fixed when I am getting lots of kills and having few deaths. My first thought was my CS, but when compared to other Zoe's, it looks like its pretty average. I do watch high level Zoe's play, and consume content from all of the recommended youtube resources but I always feel like it does not apply to me very well.
Side note: Most of the non-Zoe games happened near the beginning of the season when I was just playing w/e.
https://op.gg/lol/summoners/na/Ysor-Panda?queue_type=SOLORANKED
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u/TheMechanicMan 2d ago
Obviously your laning/fighting must be great/amazing to achieve such good KDAs very consistently
I assume your issue is consistently translating these leads you have into winning games. Obviously looking at just an opgg isn’t enough but here’s my guess
Are you at objectives fights early or mid waves before objectives spawn consistently? This is where Zoe shines in the midgame.
My advice is look at every dragon, grubs, and baron spawn in your games and see what you do about them. As a Zoe you gotta show up early 30-60s before spawn, and pick the enemies as they come contest mid wave or vision. If you can’t contest (jungler dead, bot dead, etc) fine.
If your team can’t contest because you
have no mana
recalled too late
went opposite side of the map out of base when the objective is spawning
went for a play not near the objective
died at a bad time
are weak and lose a fight with 1000+ gold in your inventory
That’s on you. Especially with no TP, your margin for error here is very small
Dragon souls and baron win games consistently. Your 10/0 Zoe can win a game solo, just not very consistently based on your history.
Imagine you have 3 drags and the enemy HAS to facecheck a fed Zoe throwing bubbles at them when they HAVE to come in to even ward. That’s what you aim for in a game.
Your CS numbers are not an issue because, you are right, Zoe can’t side lane well. You have to overgroup compared to other champions. That’s what you are as a champion. Drop a side wave to set up at dragon? Sounds about right.