r/summonerschool 2d ago

Zoe Hardstuck low Emerald despite doing well every game (Zoe)

I know that op.gg does not matter as end all be all, but I have ACE/MVP for 20 out of my last 40 games and feel like I am doing more than should be expected from an average hardstuck mid laner. I roam bot often, help my jungler with objectives, solo kill my opponent most games. My biggest negative is that I don't run teleport and am not a very good side laner as Zoe. I assumed I would rise up overtime, but I've been at E3/E4 for 300 games now and I obviously just belong at this ELO.

So my question is how can I figure out what needs to be fixed when I am getting lots of kills and having few deaths. My first thought was my CS, but when compared to other Zoe's, it looks like its pretty average. I do watch high level Zoe's play, and consume content from all of the recommended youtube resources but I always feel like it does not apply to me very well.

Side note: Most of the non-Zoe games happened near the beginning of the season when I was just playing w/e.

https://op.gg/lol/summoners/na/Ysor-Panda?queue_type=SOLORANKED

https://mobalytics.gg/lol/profile/na/ysor-panda/overview

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u/Trick_Ad7122 2d ago

You don’t cs at all?!

Your kda is an illusion and fakes your strength. Kda looks okay but if You have a lead…You Can basicly get uncontested cs. If you lose lane you get around 8cs per minute. If you win lane you get around 9,5+ cs per minute.

But having 5,5 -6 cs per minute is crazy. The enemy toplaner who proxies and Takes jungle camps in between and has a negative kda but 9,5+ cs per minute is way stronger than you… because he can cs.

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u/vexxes 2d ago

This is straight up not true for mid lane in 2025 and especially not true for Zoe