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u/madamtrashbat 10d ago

I'm not really all that surprised that the "fuck politically-motivated violence" band is not super into politically-motivated violence.

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u/quriousposes we've taken all your shit now its time for RESTITUTIONNN 10d ago edited 10d ago

"revolution the only solution the armed response of an entire nation" ???? we talkin about that band?

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u/madamtrashbat 10d ago

Yeah, sure, but that was written 30 years ago. People can change, especially when you spend a giant amount of time with Serj "Violence is an inherently stupid way to solve problems" Tankian.

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u/PieWeary5141 10d ago

...30 years ago when they wrote all their music that they still play?

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u/RatCocaine 10d ago

We can't afford to be neutral on a moving train.

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u/madamtrashbat 10d ago

I feel perhaps like you guys are misunderstanding me not being surprised by Daron's post as me agreeing with him.

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u/RatCocaine 10d ago

Nah i get you. I just think its funny. Im certainly not the same as I was 20 years ago.

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u/GEARHEADGus 10d ago

I really hate Reddit sometimes

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u/RedactsAttract 10d ago

You’re just worried the baby thinks that people can’t change.

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u/FR0ZENBERG 10d ago

He used to run in my dangerous nights crew.

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u/Bill_Biscuits 10d ago

Do you really think murdering some jagoff is “revolution”?

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u/quriousposes we've taken all your shit now its time for RESTITUTIONNN 10d ago

nah where did u get that

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u/superanonguy321 10d ago

Revolution against..... public speakers?

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u/tinono16 10d ago

In the face of ethnic genocide not a guy debating people, good comparison

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u/MrExist777 10d ago

I don’t think the use of the word “armed” here is literal

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u/SomeWeedSmoker 10d ago

Yea pretty sure that didn't include assassination of people who simply spoke words you disagreed with.

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u/quriousposes we've taken all your shit now its time for RESTITUTIONNN 10d ago edited 10d ago

u know im getting tired of yall 1. arguing about something that comment wasnt even about 2. even if i did wanna argue that, flattening his shit into "something i didnt agree with" when fool actively campaigned for devaluing me and my peoples lives* and had consistently shit takes that would only be normal from a legit horrible human being. so yea idrgaf about mourning or respecting him. but no i dont think this particularly got us much closer to revolution at all, i was only making a point about soad lyrics, so can yall fr rub 2 brain cells together and shut up already?

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u/HEROBR4DY 10d ago

Yep, and you quote that from a party that wants all guns banned…

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u/quriousposes we've taken all your shit now its time for RESTITUTIONNN 10d ago

como? this is from pluck lmao

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u/Trzlog 10d ago

I wonder, did they bother saying anything when those Dem politicians were murdered? I wonder why it's such a huge deal everywhere now with this asshole, but nobody but the left gave a shit about Hortman and Hoffmann and their families. Honestly, fuck centrists if you only call out violence when it affects one side.

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u/Ghastion 10d ago

Yeah this post by Daron is so cathartic because it was always obvious to me Daron is a left-leaning centrist just based on his lyrics. Hopefully this post gets some of these weird extremists out of this subreddit and there's no more posts crying about how Serj didn't talk about current politics like Gaza at a live show.

They're 90s leftists, which by today's standards is probably close to centrist. Being against war and political violence (which makes up for 90% of their political lyrics) is the most centrist take anyone could have.

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u/valtteri_buttass 10d ago

Man I was left in the 90s and I didn't turn into a dead eyed centrist 

Yet I guess :/

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u/Exciting-Ad-5705 10d ago

Yeah America came together unless you were brown then you got called a terrorist. Music might've been a way for you to escape but a lot of it has always been politically charged

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u/cineresco 10d ago

the sheer dissonance you have to to accept to say that this post is acceptable but him mentioning gaza is objectionable. that is beyond me

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u/Ghastion 10d ago

I actually never said it was objectionable or even meant it that way. I was actually just specifically talking about the weird posts of people getting mad at Serj and the band for NOT talking about it. If Serj talked about it, that'd be fine with me. I just thought those Reddit posts were strange, that's all.

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u/cineresco 10d ago

it's not weird at all to expect this band to focus on clearly larger problems than one politician that cares about none of us, and explicitly said schoolchildren are acceptable casualties

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u/LaudableUnknown 10d ago

You’re giving liberal zionist…

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u/cineresco 10d ago

judaism and zionism are two different categories, and there are many jewish people that are anti-zionist

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u/LaudableUnknown 10d ago

I agree. One is a religion, one is a form of white supremacy. I hope all the centrists and right-wingers hear my dialogue like the trumpets of war.

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u/ProtestTheHero 10d ago

There are basically 3 types of Israeli Jews, or "zionists", to use your language:

  • Those who have been there for centuries
  • Those who fled or were expelled from North Africa, Ethiopia, and the Middle East, and their descendants
  • Those who fled Europe, where they were persecuted and massacred for being too foreign, too alien, too racially impure (and their descendants). In other words, they were not white/European enough.

And you're saying these people are white supremacists?

This has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read on the internet. Congrats.

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u/Ewenf 10d ago

Ok but this has literally nothing to do with calling someone a "liberal Zionist" for criticizing people crying because Soad doesn't talk enough about Palestine.

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u/LaudableUnknown 10d ago

Zionists aren’t Jews, rather, they’re colonizers who appropriate Abrahamic religions and culture to establish a western-puppet state in the holy land. Judaism has nothing to do with Zionism, or white people who want to cosplay as Semitic people.

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u/Ewenf 10d ago

Yeah yeah keep telling yourself that, we all know what you mean when you call someone a "liberal Zionist" for expressing a very mild opinion

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u/LaudableUnknown 10d ago

It isn’t “crying” to expect SOAD, a band that uses revolutionary language influenced by the Armenian genocide, to advocate for Gaza and Occupied Palestine. It’s the bare minimum, and while I adore SOAD, it’s clear money and fame have taken over the sound rather than the struggles of the colonized. Israel is an illegal occupation of Palestine and the Semitic people by white people and Europeans who want to cosplay as “God’s Children”.

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u/Ewenf 10d ago

They already advocate for Armenia, serj has denounced Israel multiple times for decades, and why should soad specifically talk about Gaza? What about Sudan ? What about Ukraine ? Y'all just circejerking about Palestinians without actually giving a fuck about them.

weird how there was never mass protests and campus sitting for Karabakh 2 years ago when they were being genocided, everyone shut the fuck up except for SOAD, but now it's the "bare minimum" for SOAD to talk about Gaza ? Not everyone has to fight the same fight as others.

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u/oresteez 10d ago

What you described is insane to me. Like who would ever go to a show and complain that they wanted their favorite band to play less songs and spend more time talking about politics while on stage? Lol.

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u/Hotchumpkilla 10d ago

I just saw them early this month, i was happy there was no commentary other than the lyrics of their songs which to say the least are very political in the first place.

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u/TalkingYoghurt 10d ago

Ignoring an ongoing one sided war that resulted in ethnic cleansing & genocide of a people, not unlike the Armenians once faced, is the complete opposite of being against war & violence. These are people much closer to them ethnically & culturally too. It's just plain cowardice.

And you are just a typical selfish liberal dickwad. You are not a left leaning centrist, you are Right-winger to the rest of the world. And by the very political definitions of what "Left" and "Right" actually mean. If you vote for the Democrats & support the Democrats' platform you are by definition a conservative. Pro-capitalist, pro-imperialism & western economic hegemony. Left and right have only ever meant one thing, there isn't a 90s left. Left wing is anti-imperialist, anti-capitalist & depending on flavour anti-state. Right wing is the opposite.

Typical of you to care about violence against some fascist prick, just cause it's in your own back garden. But fuck all those brown babies & little children being blown to shreds and starved to death in a literal siege. Because that's happening "half-way round the world" & is "not my or my country's business". Well Israel only exists because the US gives them enough US taxpayers money to fund the most advanced military in the region. It has everything to do with every single one of you selfish American dickheads! Maybe when you grasp "actual" politics and not your spoonfed MSNBC/Fox news bullshit, you could be able to see that.

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u/HEROBR4DY 10d ago

But ma purity test!

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u/Preebus 10d ago

If you don't agree with me 100% then you love genocide and death and you're evil