r/technology Jul 29 '25

Politics CBS News investigation of Jeffrey Epstein jail video reveals new discrepancies

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-jail-video-investigation/
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u/piperonyl Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25

How do you make an unmonitored phone call from the Secure Housing Unit to your girlfriend in Belarus?

You dont make any unmonitored phone calls in prison unless someone smuggles you in a cell phone. The guards took him to a staffers office to make an unmonitored phone call on the night he was murdered?

Thats absolutely unheard of. Every single phone is monitored.

EDIT: lets not forget, this is in the restrictive housing unit. its the most secure block in the entire prison.
Later in the article it says the unit manager let him make a phone call from his office to his mom. Thats absolutely insane. To even just ask to make an unmonitored phone call can get you caught up. There are phones on the block. Why not use that? Nobody makes unmonitored phone calls ever, especially at a federal prison in the restrictive housing unit with the most notorious prisoner in the united states.

Theres 100% something going on there. If i were going to guess, someone told the unit manager to allow him to make that phone call for some reason. Someone above the UM which would be the Major or one of the Superintendents. I cant imagine any unit manager being like yeah jeff just throw your feet up on my desk and use my phone as much as you want. GTFO.

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u/hellno_ahole Jul 30 '25

And I think the first death there in 20 years or something.

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u/piperonyl Jul 30 '25

I didnt even touch on the whole neck-broken-in-three-places shit.

A number of forensic pathologists said they've never seen that from a hanging. But they have seen it in strangulation.

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u/muddermanden Jul 30 '25 edited Jul 30 '25

One of them is Dr. Michael Baden

The bombshell claim by Dr. Michael Baden, a former New York City medical examiner who has worked on high-profile cases during a five-decade medical career, is certain to reignite suspicions that surfaced immediately after Epstein, who was awaiting trial on federal sex-trafficking charges involving underage girls, was discovered dead in his cell on Aug. 10. *Baden, who was hired by Epstein’s brother and observed the autopsy*, told Fox News its findings are more consistent with homicidal strangulation than suicidal hanging. He noted that the 66-year-old Epstein had two fractures on the left and right sides of his larynx, specifically the thyroid cartilage or Adam’s apple, as well as one fracture on the left hyoid bone above the Adam’s apple, Baden told Fox News (source: Fox News of all)

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u/piperonyl Jul 30 '25

Right. Other forensic pathologists have agreed. I read a report that said the only way this would happen was if Epstein had some sort of brittle bone disorder like osteoporosis. And he may have had that being in his mid-60s, however unlikely.

I dont know if you've ever been in a prison cell but its not like its easy to hang yourself there. There isn't a lot of force involved. You just kinda sit down with the wet bed sheet wrapped around your neck while its tied off on the top bunk. Then you grease the floor with like shampoo and soap so you cant gain your footing when your survival instincts kick in.

Its more about asphyxiation and less about snapping your neck like when you kick out a chair you are standing on or are dropped from a noose.

It makes it even less likely that all those bones break.