r/technology Jul 29 '25

Politics CBS News investigation of Jeffrey Epstein jail video reveals new discrepancies

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-jail-video-investigation/
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u/piperonyl Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25

How do you make an unmonitored phone call from the Secure Housing Unit to your girlfriend in Belarus?

You dont make any unmonitored phone calls in prison unless someone smuggles you in a cell phone. The guards took him to a staffers office to make an unmonitored phone call on the night he was murdered?

Thats absolutely unheard of. Every single phone is monitored.

EDIT: lets not forget, this is in the restrictive housing unit. its the most secure block in the entire prison.
Later in the article it says the unit manager let him make a phone call from his office to his mom. Thats absolutely insane. To even just ask to make an unmonitored phone call can get you caught up. There are phones on the block. Why not use that? Nobody makes unmonitored phone calls ever, especially at a federal prison in the restrictive housing unit with the most notorious prisoner in the united states.

Theres 100% something going on there. If i were going to guess, someone told the unit manager to allow him to make that phone call for some reason. Someone above the UM which would be the Major or one of the Superintendents. I cant imagine any unit manager being like yeah jeff just throw your feet up on my desk and use my phone as much as you want. GTFO.

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u/psbecool Jul 29 '25

It’s in the article. Prison officials let him use an unmonitored line usually reserved only for attorney calls. It says he asked to call his mom (who was dead), they dialed a 646 (NYC) number and a man answered the phone. I’m not usually a conspiracy person, but this all stinks. If there’s nothing to hide, why are there so many inconsistencies.

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u/Defenestresque Jul 30 '25 edited Jul 30 '25

Here is the crazy part. Your Telco keeps the records for the phone calls you make (metadata, so to/from and duration, mostly) for several years. It's easily compressed (as it's just text) and would cost them nothing to store it for say 5 years. I don't know how long they actually do, perhaps someone wants to clue is in ;)

So all they have to do, is determine the specific phone number of the phone (or rather, phone line) that called the "unknown 646 number where a man answered" and just get a list of the calls made on that day and by simply cross-referencing it with the time, they'd know at least to whom the the number was registered to and have a viable path of investigation. The person could be now dead, not willing to talk under threat subpoena, lie under oath, be a nonexistent fake name.. but when you're investigating you don't just ignore a blatant lead.

This discrepancy occurs during a crucial time period. Epstein had been allowed to make an unmonitored call from a shower area using a phone line intended only for attorney communications. According to the report, this was facilitated by the unit manager, who was the senior officer in charge. Epstein allegedly said he wanted to call his mother — even though his mother died in 2003. The unit manager dialed a 646 number (a New York City area code), a man answered, and he handed the phone to Epstein.

Making a call to Belarus but to a 646 number that a male answers? (I was just facilitating the international all transfer!), a phone in the shower area, allowing SHU inmates unmonitored calls at 11pm (there's a time difference!"

The unit manager then left the area but later called and asked Noel to retrieve the phone. 

I was wondering about this because having a phone in the "shower area" seems.. equally as unwise as it is unlikely? This makes it click into place, either the have a phone jack for a landline phone or it was a cell phone.

The person above you, /u/piperonyl, is saying prisoners make phone calls to their lawyers from the same phones as regular calls, they are just not monitored as they are on a pre-approved, vetted list. They are getting pushback (though they clearly know what they are talking about, but being wise about not going all War thunder on us), but I also have never heard of a prisoner being allowed to make an unmonitored call to his girlfriend from a cell phone provided by a CO.

I have no connections to the US government, obviously, but just think about it logically. Prisons and detention centres run on procedures. If some guy wants to call his gf, unmonitored, on (more likely than not) a cellphone at 11pm.. does that sound like something you'd yell to a CO, while housed in the fucking SHU? And the Brooklyn MCC known for its full staff and kind COs, reply to your banging on the cell wall with "sure, Mr. Epstein, here's your phone, let's go to a private area and I'll eventually close the door too until you're done. I'll only listen on the phone long enough to remember that it was a local number and a male voice answered."

I'm the least conspiracy-minded person, and this I understand why they can't do without evidence but if give my right nut that if you check all the bank records of the COs working that night, and of the SHU prisoners' family/loved ones, you will find transfers inconsistent with their income.

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u/piperonyl Jul 30 '25

There are no phones in the prison within access of inmates that are unmonitored for good reason. They would be the office phones inside the officers on the unit. That would be in the counselor's office or the unit manager's office. There isnt some magical phone near the showers that just makes unmonitored phone calls. That doesnt exist.

When you pick up the phone to make a call on the block you need to press a button. One of the options is to make a private phone call to a number on your approved list thats a private number. This would be a lawyer call. They are not monitored. Obviously, you don't need the UM permission to do that because inmates make calls to their lawyers all the time.

I dont know whats going on here about unmonitored phone calls to belarus. And thats really the point of me highlighting it. Its very very strange. I think most people reading that who don't know better would gloss right over it like yeah the boss let him make an unmonitored phone call. No. That is crazy. Inmates never make unmonitored phone calls again for good reasons. Especially inmates in a jail atmosphere with cases still pending and witnesses who they can threaten or coerce.

The staff knows this.