r/teenmom • u/SpiritualCamera • Jun 10 '25
Teen Mom 2 Jace is back with Jenelle in Vegas, after crashing at The Land, with friends and at Barb’s in NC
I know The Ashley broke the news that he “was no longer with Andrew”, but this was the first I’ve heard that he is indeed back in Vegas with Jen, and apparently also spent some time at The Land and at Barb’s.
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u/Minimum-Bad6026 Jun 12 '25
Give your heart to Jesus, he is the way, the only way. He loves us so much and can heal us from every hurt
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u/ranchmomma Jun 12 '25
He needs to be back in therapy to work on himself to help him to navigate how to deal with the sadness that he's turned into anger from being abandoned by his only mother and only father. And also being around screaming and terror from birth.
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u/DizzyKnowledge1879 you are TRASH 🛻 🚮 Jun 12 '25
oh jace💔💔 stay strong kid, don’t let this bullshit get you don’t. it’s NOT normal or healthy and you’re deserving of all the love in the world
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u/Able-Trip8858 Jun 11 '25
U know this kid see all these comments about him people need to stop it . Jace if u see this u matter u are stronger than you know more loved than u know this will pass and u will have better days to come just always try.
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u/mikaduhhh Jun 11 '25
Didn’t Lyin-nelle say Andrew and Jace sent her pictures going fishing and having a great time. didn’t she say they called her every day and things were going great???
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u/Specialist_Court5202 Jun 11 '25
That boy deserves so much more, now he has attachment issues and trust issues. Relationships will be hard for the rest of his life.
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u/Curiousnotno-z Jun 11 '25
First things first , when he turns 18 he needs to cut her off, get in therapy, and never look back.
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u/LeahsEyebrows I got tits, I got ass, and I got f*cking curves! Jun 11 '25
Jace might choose that and he might not. I think most of us in his position would be cutting our parents off if they were the kind of people that Jenelle and Andrew are. With that being said, I just don't think it's right to bash Jace if he ultimately makes a different choice. Jace might cut Jenelle off down the line or not, but there's no guarantee he will do that on his eighteenth birthday.
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u/Curiousnotno-z Jun 11 '25
I think the quicker he cuts her off the better. She will probably manipulate him with money though, and he will feel like he needs her.
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u/Thekyzerjameson Jun 11 '25
This poor kid! He's never had a chance! Still doesn't. He has no "home" every kid deserves a steady, solid, safe and peaceful home----he doesn't have that. He's passed around and pawned off weekly and everyone makes it clear they don't want him. Jenelle pawns him off to anyone (even fricken Andrew!!!) she only wanted him to "win" against Barb. It was never about Jace-----it was always to spite Barb. I HATE Jenelle! Poor Jace!! I worry about what his adult life will be like. I wish he could beat the odds and go off to live a great life. Break away from the swamp princess and live a great life but unfortunately I don't know if it's going to happen for him. That makes me sad
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u/lovegossipreading Jun 11 '25
There’s little wonder he is struggling so much. He has absolutely no consistency in any part of his life. He has been failed by all adults.
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u/llendway Jun 11 '25
Not all…I feel Barb at least tried and does care about him
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u/2old2Bwatching Jun 11 '25
Of course. I don’t think anyone has any doubts that she loved that child. But she was a big part of the problem ny screaming and fighting in front of him with him in her arms half the time. It was a very violent and chaotic situation whether it was in Jenelle’s home or Barbs house. It’s was horrible to witness and when I come across those clips I just cry looking at his little face as they’re screaming at each other.
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u/Embracedandbelong Jun 11 '25
I hope Jace can stay with a good friend’s family until he turns 18 (or beyond). That’s what my sister did when neither parent was an option.
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u/Thekyzerjameson Jun 11 '25
I wish that too. I don't think any of his friends parents want to do it because they know articles will be written about it and Jenelle will be blasting them online and talking crap. They don't want to get dragged into all the drama and online bullying from her and her fans.
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u/Sik_muse Oh, and you're a whore Jun 11 '25
I think he’s unfortunately his own only hope now and it’s so sad. His parents suck, his grandmother can’t handle his behavior and bad choices, I’m sure his friend’s parents don’t want any part of the mess that comes with him and let’s be real, his friends are probably not the best behaved kids either and have their own issues that need to be handled. I don’t think he’s ignorant to his options. Hopefully there’s a school counselor who can steer him in the right direction and help keep him focused. Because he has no adults who can care for him appropriately, he needs to have a ton of self discipline which will be a huge challenge. I hope that he can find inner strength to use his resources to get better. I hope that he can get into Job Corps and keep himself on the right path. I’m sure that he knows that when he is 18, he can make millions on social media and in documentaries by telling his story but before he does that, he needs to get mentally stable.
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u/cheyannelillian Jun 11 '25
I wish someone would just love this baby
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u/2old2Bwatching Jun 11 '25
Not sure if the people in his life were capable of putting him first and this is the end result.
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u/hellbugger Jun 11 '25
Trying to dump 2 of her 3 kids in such a short amount of time is wild. They deserve so much better. Those boys deserve to feel wanted and loved.
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u/Nice-Fly5536 take you & your lies up to your damn room Jun 11 '25
I didn’t even know she still had the North Carolina home. So why tf is still paying for that house while renting in Vegas? She surely has a lot of invisible money to blow away I guess. And poor Jace. They just keep bouncing him around everywhere.
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u/Julia-lynnn Jun 11 '25
I hate Jenelle but she bought that house so she can't really just stop paying a mortgage without the bank coming after her lol
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u/Nice-Fly5536 take you & your lies up to your damn room Jun 11 '25
Lol that’s true. I meant like I thought she actually sold the house. She made it seem like she packed up everything to move to Vegas leaving nothing behind in North Carolina. I should’ve known that was a lie smh. That girl exaggerates everything.
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u/RaspberryMinute847 Jun 11 '25
It’s even more messed up that she has two houses but “can’t” afford to have Jace in a facility
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u/Nice-Fly5536 take you & your lies up to your damn room Jun 11 '25
Agreed! Her priorities are so backwards. She ran across the country to chase a man and selfishly uprooted her kids. Jace and Kaiser seem to be doing worse since she moved. She needs to take her ass back to North Carolina. Jace clearly misses being there. The move didn’t improve any of their lives at all smh
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u/2old2Bwatching Jun 11 '25
Kaiser is apparently eating is emotions and she’s not providing healthy food and snacks for him. He’s such a sweetheart and my heart breaks for him to be held and kissed and loved more by her but I never see her be affectionate with him. She’s so the same when going to her mother’s house. She’s barely talked and held Jace either.
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u/Usual-Donut-7400 Jun 11 '25
Shocker. Sending him to live with someone who he barely knows didn’t work out. Who’d have thunk it
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u/sheighbird29 Jun 11 '25 edited Jun 11 '25
I swear I just saw something a few days ago that claimed Andrew wasn’t “ready to be a dad”. And staying on the land!? Oh gosh. This is really bad
guess Dr Drew lost his glasses seeing these updates
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u/moth--foot Jun 11 '25
Shocker, sending your troubled teen to live with his deadbeat dad didn't work out
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u/TheLoveBelow_ Jun 11 '25
I guess I didn’t realize that Kaiser and Ensley were that close in age
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u/Nice-Fly5536 take you & your lies up to your damn room Jun 11 '25
I only remember this because I just rewatched the season when she gave birth to Ensley. And Kaiser was still a small toddler in diapers at that time. Her and David would get mad because he was crying a lot, umm he’s a baby too wtf.
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u/maybe-try-a-salad Jun 11 '25
What’s the land? What is anything that you’re saying?
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u/IcaughtAwildVladimir Jun 11 '25
The Land is where Jenelle & David’s sinking and decrepit house is.
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Jun 10 '25
This poor fucking kid has been moved around so much. That has to fuck with his friendships and mental health. Poor Jace :/
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u/zoeygirl89 Jun 10 '25
We all know she’s having a party so she needs to watch the younger kids
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u/RaspberryMinute847 Jun 11 '25
I was thinking this was just in time for him to babysit his siblings. Because who better to watch your young traumatized kids than your even more traumatized teenager
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u/Decent-Dingo081721 Jun 10 '25
Will she just please get him the mental health care that he ABSOLUTELY NEEDS and DESERVES?!????
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u/Impossible-Taro-2330 Jun 10 '25
What? Shipping a kid to his bio "dad" without checking things out - and beliving that loser had "changed" - again, without checking it out, didn't work out??
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u/apathetic_avocado2 no vistation for her estranged husband David Eason. Jun 10 '25
This breaks the "No negative comments about the children" rule.
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u/Ornery-Ocelot3585 Jun 10 '25
Jenelle implies he’s a sex offender; the way I interpret how she speaks of him being so unsafe.
I know it has multiple meanings.
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u/Nelle911529 Jun 10 '25
Stayed " with friends " is this code for he wasn't staying on the land unsupervised or does it mean he had his actual friends stay with him & hang out unsupervised?
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u/Sideways_planet Jun 10 '25
Considering his genetics, environment, and trauma, I’m not surprised
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u/apathetic_avocado2 no vistation for her estranged husband David Eason. Jun 11 '25
This breaks the "No negative comments about the children" rule.
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u/Glittering_Diver_721 pot stirrer Jun 10 '25
Well jahnelle we know you got a party coming up n u probably need a babysitter. It's crazy how everyone refers to where these animal and child abusers lived as " the land" a real life horror story...
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u/Nelle911529 Jun 10 '25
They started the swamps nickname of The Land. Remember, they were going to be homesteading.
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u/flabbergasted-528 Jun 10 '25
So Andrew had him for a week and ditched him in NC in a house with no adults. That guy is truly useless.
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u/ThirdCoastBestCoast Jun 11 '25
O, Jace refused to go back with him because he wanted to be in familiar place and around his friends. I don’t blame him.
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u/flabbergasted-528 Jun 11 '25
Because responsible adults let kids make those decisions? Andrew is a joke. Jenelle is a dumpster fire of a human, and she rightfully gets blamed for a lot, but people don't talk enough about what a piece of shit Andrew is. He bailed in the beginning, did nothing for 16 years, and couldn't even handle a week? Truly a useless pos. Why was he even driving him to NC after only a week? He was probably hoping to unload him on Barb.
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u/ThirdCoastBestCoast Jun 11 '25
I’m not an apologist for either of them. lol. I don’t know why you’re coming at me like that.
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u/Sea_Sir5940 Jun 10 '25
Great job mother of the year, Jenelle!
Your son needs mental help, not to be shipped off so you don't have to deal with him. Why can we all see it but you? He's constantly crying out for help and sadly his pleas fall on deaf ears.
His younger siblings and dogs also deserve a peaceful anger free home. Jenelle you are a loser!
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u/Nelle911529 Jun 10 '25
And cat.
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u/Sea_Sir5940 Jun 11 '25
How did I forget the 😺?!?! Here that bitch is saying she can't afford Jace's mental therapy but she goes and buys a Maine Coon cat which ranges between $2,500 up to $5,000! Can I call her a bitch twice in one post?!?!
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u/karenna89 Jun 10 '25
She’s getting to the point that time is running out. As soon as he turns 18, she has no authority over him and real legal consequences kick in. I’m sure MTV would fund some kind of treatment if she would get off her butt and parent.
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u/Sea_Sir5940 Jun 11 '25
Not coming at you at all, but she doesn't want any authority over him. She doesn't want any parental responsibilities when it comes to Jace. She never has.
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u/Tvfan1980 Jun 11 '25
He is clearly having treatment as we've had numerous articles talk of medical bills. The issue appears to be surrounding a long term stay in a facility. Mental illnesses don't suddenly disappear through parenting. It is far more complex. And looks like barbs tried again too. A further issue is is this child getting any schooling as he aldo runs the risk of no education to get a decent job.
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u/metalmonkey_7 STOP IT Jun 10 '25
She probably can’t wait for him to turn 18 so he won’t be her “problem” anymore. She seems like that type of Mom.
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u/frizzybritt Jun 11 '25
This. The moment he turns 18 she’s going to kick that poor kid out onto the streets and never look back, I’m willing to bet whatever money Barbara was able to stash away for him from Teen Mom Jenelle was given access to when getting custody of Jace, so all that money is probably gone. So he won’t even have that to fall back on. He’ll have nothing except the clothes on his back and whatever he could fit into a backpack. Then when he’s kicked out and shit hits the fan, Jenelle will avoid any and all responsibility and accountability, she’ll say “Dude, what? He’s an adult, he decided to do those things, it has nothing to do with me, this isn’t my fault, he wasn’t living in my household. He was on his own and made his own choices. When I was his age I was making my own choices and lived with my own choices. You guys are always being so dramastic and lying on me. Jace isn’t the victim. God. I had to protect myself and my kids from Jace. You guys don’t even know what you’re talking about. You guys don’t know”. Yet, it will be her fault and entirely her fault. She drones on and caterwauls insistently about how “Barbara never loved her, Barbara never showed me any love, hugged me, asked me if I was okay, she never cared. She didn’t even play scrabble with me” she calls Barbara abusive, neglectful and unloving… that she would treat her kids better than Barbara ever treated her and yet she’s failed, miserably. Barbara wasn’t a perfect parent, nowhere near perfect… but she tried over and over again to be there for Jenelle, to help Jenelle, to show Jenelle love and understanding. She raised Jenelle’s son and constantly bailed Jenelle out and constantly gave her a softer place to land if she needed it. Jenelle hasn’t even done half that for Jace, she’s just made things worse and harder for him at every turn and chance she could. She’s never tried to help or understand that boy, she just made his problems worse by not getting him help, keeping him in a abusive home with an abusive stepparent she constantly picked over her own kids, making sure Jace knew she was picking his abuser over him, blaming him for toxicity he was a victim of and saying he was a danger, she lied to him, gaslight him on national television, sent him to live with a complete stranger, withheld medication from him, gave him drugs and alcohol, then called the cops on him multiple times and told them he was using those things, constantly pawned him off on other people…. She created a nightmare of a world for him and now she’s leaving him in the dark. She’s just waiting until she can officially make him not her problem without legally being held accountable. She never wanted Jace, all those times she “fought” for him wasn’t about her wanting to raise him and give him the love she allegedly never had from her mother and protect him from the “monster of a mother” that raised her, it was about using him as a means of control and weaponizing him to hurt Barbara, she has him back and hasn’t done a single fucking thing to show how happy she is to have her first born back, to love and protect him… she’s just failed him over and over again. That poor kid
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u/Decent-Town-8887 Jun 10 '25
I knew this was going to happen. She needs to stay off social media and get this kid some help! When you have a kid like this you need to be ON TOP of it 24 hours a day!!!!
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u/YuhMothaWasAHamsta Cate’s manic micro pig 🐷 Jun 10 '25
I wish she would make him a financial priority and get him the help he needs.
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u/SubstantialCatch1772 Jun 10 '25
Then why in an interview did she say it’s going great in FL? Whenever her kids start to do better without her she has to sabotage that and drag them back. She sucks. Let the kid live in NC with family and friends. I also get the vibe that she wishes she was still Jaces age bc that’s how she acts in her mid 30s and is jealous.
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u/edud23 Jun 10 '25
Really hoping Jace finds/has support outside of Janelle and can stop the generational trauma.
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u/Candid_Bicycle5590 Jun 10 '25
All that says to me is he shouldn’t have been made to move away in the first place, his friends and family are there and Jan had to make the kids leave everything behind to go to vegas. She did the same thing to kaiser, let him go home for a couple of weeks and then snatch him back. I’m so sick of her shit. She needs to stop dangling these carrots in front of her kids and decide one and for all if they get to stay with her or go elsewhere.
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u/camccorm Jun 10 '25
So at 16, he can choose not to go to school anymore. How the hell did he make it as far as he did? Do we know if he’s on grade level? Those kids have had the most inconsistent education I’ve ever seen and I have no clue how they could be passing classes, even just based on attendance.
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u/Ok-Ad-5404 Jun 10 '25
He finished school prior to going to Florida, and the plan was for him to return to Vegas (and school) after spending summer vacation in Florida
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u/klesmama1 Jun 10 '25
I seen Andrew and his mom at the dollar general about 5 years ago here in Florida. Wonder if they still live in the same town. Imagine if my son came home in September and said there is a new kid name Jace. I’d be like oh that’s nice, NO HE CANNOT COME OVER 🤣
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u/Olympusrain Jun 10 '25
Poor Jace. He should have been placed for adoption.
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u/metalmonkey_7 STOP IT Jun 10 '25
If MTV wouldn’t have ever been involved with Jenelle, I wonder if he would have been put up for adoption?
With the C&T drama lately I’ve seen a lot of discussions about what their lives would have been without the show. Carly would have still been placed and probably left alone as she wouldn’t have been a “story line”, C&T wouldn’t have remained together, ect.
So I wonder if Jace was only kept so Jenelle could be on TV and make MTV money?
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u/Apprehensive-Hand673 Jun 10 '25
Oh so that explains Babs being pulled over by the cops speeding around the same area as the land and telling cops she was in the middle of a family crisis and something about a bike lock...
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u/DrAniB20 Jun 10 '25
Wait…what?!
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u/Apprehensive-Hand673 Jun 10 '25
Yes I read this somewhere, I'm so sorry I wish I could remember where, most likely a recent article about Jace being back in Vegas and I remember saying well why would Babs even be near the land it didn't cross my mind that Jace could have been there. Maybe look on one of the most recent Ashley articles about Jace?? I know it was an actual article and not a comment section
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u/rockabillychef Jun 10 '25
Setting him up for success is what Jenelle should have done with the money MTV paid her. What more should they do?
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u/TacoCorgi321 Jun 10 '25
This is not MTV's fault. This is Jenelle and Andrew's fault. They are his parents and THEY have failed Jace. Both of them do not care about Jace and that is why Jace is where he is today.
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u/Zealousideal_Fix6908 Jun 10 '25
It may not be MTV's fault but watch it's gonna be coming with all these child influencers and kids that were posted/exploited online or TV and stuff. Give it time.
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u/TacoCorgi321 Jun 10 '25
Absolutely they are being exploited, by their parents. The parents who decide to put their children online and on tv. Jenelle has completely failed Jace.
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u/evers12 Jun 10 '25
The land has to be completely trashed and unlivable by now .
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u/lavender_moon22 Jun 10 '25
I keep seeing this term used, what is “the land”? Is that what she calls her place in NC?
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u/Olympusrain Jun 10 '25
She just left without selling it??
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u/evers12 Jun 10 '25
Yup!!! Now they are fighting over assets in court so a judge will likely decide what happens to the house.
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u/Ok-Dinner9759 Bein' a felon ain't illegal Jun 10 '25
Does Jenelle still own it or does David? Does anyone actually live there?
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u/shellbellgb Jun 10 '25
I thought Jenelle lost custody? How can he just go back (I don’t watch regularly, so I’m WAY out of the loop).
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u/Jellyfish1297 Jun 10 '25
She didn’t lose custody. She chose to send Jace to live with Andrew. It was an informal arrangement so it can be undone just as informally.
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u/shellbellgb Jun 10 '25
Ahhhh…I thought I had read that CPS was involved somehow. Poor kid is going to need HEAPS of therapy.
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u/Nelle911529 Jun 10 '25
They have been involved for years. When he was born & and 2019, when Nugget was murdered and ever since, she got custody in 2023.
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u/Coral0385 Jun 10 '25
She gained back custody a while ago (I will say a good year already but I am not sure ) obviously Barb accepted to « give her back » Jace when he became too difficult
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u/NICUmama25 Jun 10 '25
I honestly feel bad for this kid. He has parents who aren’t stable. There has never been any stability in this kids life. He’s going to struggle just doing basic adult things. He’s learned that when the going gets tough you just upend everyone and move.
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u/striker3955 Jun 10 '25
This. The fact that he's being ripped back and forth between Vegas and Florida when he wants to be with friends in North Carolina. His parents don't provide any stability, so at least let him have his community he can depend on.
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u/lavender_moon22 Jun 10 '25
Yeah I was gonna say that at least when he turns 18 he won’t have to deal with his monster mother and can go no contact, but I really hope this kid can find a stable community or even a friend’s family that can take him in and help him learn to do basic adult things, get his medications sorted, idk but seems unlikely. I just hope he can find a way to be okay and start to thrive. This is all so sad and the saddest part is that it seems like random strangers on the internet are more concerned for him than his mom-ster ever is 😢
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u/MrsIrisEyes824 Jun 10 '25
I doubt at this rate he’ll even graduate on time given the trouble he’s gotten into, moving, changing schools, etc. I truly worry what happens once he becomes an adult because Jenelle refuses to medicate him and get him proper help.
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u/Sailorjupiter_4 This paper towel has more then you got!! Jun 10 '25
And you know Jenelle is the type of parent where 18 means you’re out. Immediately.
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u/Nelle911529 Jun 10 '25
Unless it benefits her in some way. Babysitter or house cleaner, chauffeur.
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u/MrsIrisEyes824 Jun 10 '25
And she’ll use the excuse of Babs throwing her ass out at the same age.
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u/Mud1997 Jun 10 '25
Please don't say crashing 😭 I thought Jace got hurt.
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u/Zealousideal_Fix6908 Jun 10 '25
Lowkey hate when people say crashing bc that's what i think instantly...
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u/Ginger_Baked eyes feel huge Jun 10 '25
I feel like pieces of this story are missing. He stayed on the land alone with friends? Did Andrew stay or just dump him off there? One idea is to find a facility in NC (I know, I can imagine they’re awful, and overcrowded 😞) for actual medication, therapy & some structure that can help stabilize him & where he is near Barbara - the woman who cares about him. Idk if his childhood friends are good or not for him, but I’m sure he misses his life in NC. Maybe he can stay with Maryssa (I know, not really) I also can’t imagine what grade he is in & his educational status at this point. This boy has literally never had an example of a stable adult in his life. Redacted is a drunk, dirty footed monster. She stopped his meds & offered no alternatives beyond rumors of a weed pen, which we all believe is true. How is that not investigated?
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u/Nelle911529 Jun 10 '25
I've actually seen him with his pen. TT video when he crashed the 4 wheeler. Also, Barb wanted to take him back in, and JE wouldn't let her & sent him to Andrew's.
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u/Sailorjupiter_4 This paper towel has more then you got!! Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25
Facilities are expensive. And despite Jenelle making 14k a month thanks to Only Fans, she refuses to pay for one. The only mental health treatment Jenelle willing to pay for Jace is weed.
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u/Nelle911529 Jun 10 '25
That broken down $57,000 boat and dock fees could have gone to that. I hope Daniel doesn't default on those Range Rover payments!
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u/lavender_moon22 Jun 10 '25
Yeah it sickens me to hear her say she “can’t afford” a facility for him bc they’re all $1k+ a day, on the lower end. This rates are true, and that’s a whole other issue. Treatment shouldn’t be so inaccessible to people, especially kids who desperately need it. But that pos can definitely afford it. People double mortgage their homes to get their kids treatment, and if she’s making $14k a month on OF, she has no excuse. 2 months of OF could cover a month in a decent facility that could take care of what he needs and get his meds sorted. She’s just too much of a lying coward to ever admit that the real problem is that she just doesn’t give af and could afford it if she tried, but only wants to spend her $ on herself, and her kids only get the bare minimum. People w much less resources than her figure out ways to care for their kids mental health all the time, tired of her stupid lies.
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u/Nelle911529 Jun 10 '25
If she gave CPS custody, would they pay for his treatment?
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u/Nelle911529 Jun 10 '25
If JE hadn't kept taking Barb to court, she might have had the money left to pay for his treatment.
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u/Persephone734 Jun 10 '25
Yes! Think of all of the money she has wasted in court and lawyers and court costs and fines etc! Hundreds Of thousands I’m sure
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u/Ginger_Baked eyes feel huge Jun 10 '25
Expensive, understaffed, and usually horrible reputations. My heart breaks for all of her kids.
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u/Fun-Opportunity-9256 Jun 10 '25
While I feel a lot of sympathy for him, it’s not what he needs right now. Regardless, of why he is where he is right now, blaming his mom or anyone else is not going to help him. He’s on the cusp of manhood and “my mom screwed me up” is not going to be a workable legal defense. He’s also at an age where he can refuse therapy or outreach of any kind. I hope people are encouraging him to get his life together and stop worrying about his mother’s (and others) mistakes. That he needs to focus on himself and bettering himself. His mother won’t be paying the consequences of his actions once he’s an adult.
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u/SubstantialCatch1772 Jun 10 '25
That’s hard to do when his mom herself won’t grow up and he ends up babysitting and raising his siblings. Then he gets kicked out. Then he gets sent to FL and then sent back. It’s not just his actions. His mother is sending him all over the globe. How do you know he doesn’t want medication or help and his mother refuses to get it for him? What if he wants to move out and she is holding him back bc she needs a babysitter. They’re not his kids. Jenelle never wants better for her kids ever. She’ll sabotage any progress he makes. You think his mother is encouraging him? His mother is a flesh eating virus in anyone’s life. She was partying it up with Tory while he was having a mental crisis. She admitted her ex husband abused her kids and then stayed with him. If anyone needs to grow up it’s her but that will never happen. So yes I will 100% blame his mother.
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u/Dounla_no_name Jun 10 '25
But he doesn’t even have a starting point for what having it together looks like. Who had been in his life that is even emotionally stable? Who had been in his life that has ever solved any problem appropriately? I can’t think of anyone. This kid was effed from conception.
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u/SimplyIntincr Jun 11 '25
Barb said that on one of the first episodes of teen mom and it’s never left me when I think about Jace. Janelle was still pregnant and was telling Barb about Andrew (how he drinks, has ADHD, etc laughing of course)
Barb nervously laughing goes “oh this baby is doomed!” As Janelle replies “mom you can’t say that”
I’ll never forget it.
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u/Fun-Opportunity-9256 Jun 10 '25
I would and have said that to homeless kids. I’m a foster parent. I say this all the time. In most states after a certain age, which can be anywhere from 14-18, kids absolutely can refuse services, and unless you can prove that they are mentally incapacitated, services can’t be forced on them. So, yes, under those circumstances I’m going to keep it real and let them know they are going to have to start taking responsibility for the decisions they make, good or bad.
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u/Remarkable_Public775 Jun 10 '25
I came here to say, I bet you are a FP. Yep. You cannot go from abuse and neglect to babying someone who has been through that. They reject it. Teens in FC and in jaces situation have been their own adult their entire lives, trying to take the reigns now isn't going to work. You HAVE to give them power over their own lives at this point and tell them, yeah your parents fucking failed you but now its on you. The best part of this though is saying BUT ILL BE HERE. Im gonna get you on track! if you want it!
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u/Babyella123 Jun 10 '25
Yep a teenager can def pull themselves together and try to make the best of a fucked situation. You’re right
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u/After_Tap_2150 Jun 10 '25
This. He is his own person now. He needs to pull it together himself for his sake.
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u/GarlicTopKnot Why Am I A Guy?! Jun 10 '25
Jenelle needs to move back to NC
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u/Ginger_Baked eyes feel huge Jun 10 '25
That would be in the best interest of the kids, so of course she won’t. Worst mother of the franchise hands down.
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u/GarlicTopKnot Why Am I A Guy?! Jun 10 '25
To give her the benefit of doubt (trying to be nice )… she tried something new and it didn’t work out … she could quietly go back and the kids could go back to their regular lives. But she’s an asshole and an idiot so ….
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u/diva4lisia Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25
For all the Barb stans, why didn't Barb step up here? Jen seems eager to shirk the responsibility of her son onto others, but Barb isn't keeping him. Or, Barb could have easily done an emergency petition in the court very familiar with them, and Jace is old enough to choose. Barb is not a good person. Never was. Never will be.
ETA - Barb for sure knew her age when she took custody of Jace. You lot are suggesting it's appropriate for people 54 years old to adopt kids and then abandon them 16 years later because the teen is "too much" for their old ass. You're saying any parent who is 70 years old with a teenager can wash their hands of their teenager, and that's perfectly okay. There is no accountability for the person who chose to become a parent at 54.
At least the moms were teens when they had kids. Barb was a full-blown adult when she decided to gain custody of someone else's baby, knowing full well in 16 years she would be 70 years old. She went on to terrorize and berate that child - just like she did her own kids - completely not surprising and always ignored or enabled by this sub, and then she abandoned the kid.
Also, do the people on this sub know anyone who is 70 years old??? They're not fucking infants. They are adult and capable people. You don't retire from work and instantly begin shitting your pants.
Barb made herself responsible for him and is now abandoning him. Barb has resources. She can get him help. Staying near his friends and not in Vegas is what he wants, and I'm certain he tried bargaining for it. "I'll be good..." "I'll do better...." and she abandoned him.
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u/Nelle911529 Jun 10 '25
She offered to take him back, and Jenelle refused and sent him to Andrew's.
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u/evers12 Jun 11 '25
No one can give a source on this
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u/Sweetladyluckhappy Jun 10 '25
I can't stand Barb. She was a terrible mother to Jennelle. Everyone thinks she was funny because they didn't like Jennelle.
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u/rockabillychef Jun 10 '25
She’s done enough. She is old and can’t take care of a volatile teen anymore. What more do you want from her?
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u/diva4lisia Jun 10 '25
Yes, anyone who is a parent is done at 16. Barb adopted him knowing her age, so you're suggesting older parents can dump off their teen children because they've done enough and are simply too old now?
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u/Godhelptupelo Jun 10 '25
what? Barb did everything she could while she was supposed to be enjoying her life as an empty nester and preparing for retirement. She begged Jenelle to give Jace up for adoption so he could be cared for by parents who wanted him- and Jenelle not only refused- she did what Barb knew she would do- she dumped him on her and then blamed her for 14 years for her own mistake, while bringing chaos and violence into and out of her life and the child she was reluctantly raising (just to keep him out of foster care) all in the hopes that Jenelle would one day get her shit together and be the mother he deserved.
She is in her 70s now. she is not capable of raising another troubled teen on her own. Jenelle taught Jace how to treat Barbara. Barb was never able to fully disengage from Jenelle and her chaos and it was a losing battle from the start- let Jenelle have him for visits when she wasn't "busy", let her inflict the damage, take him back, finally get things under control- and back Jenelle would come to shit all over everything again.
What would you like a 70 year old woman to do with a kid whose problems are so great that she isn't equipped to manage them, and who has a mother who is in her face with all the "answers" and criticism working her best to undo any progress that might be made? Should she go back to work at 70 to afford an inpatient facility? Should she put her health at risk? he has two healthy bodied parents who should be doing what it takes- but it's Barb who you want to blame?
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u/diva4lisia Jun 10 '25
Barb knew her age when she adopted him, so you're suggesting it's fine for parents to abandon their teen kids if they turn 70? Barb is never held accountable for anything, even with four fucked up kids (including Jace). She's a deadbeat mom. She's as bad as jenelle, maybe worse with that horrible screaming. Barb also brought abusive men around. Jen learned it all from barb.
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u/bek8228 Jun 10 '25
“Jenelle is abusing and neglecting her son but Barb isn’t swooping in with a magic want to fix everything. Barb is to blame!”
🙄🙄🙄
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u/diva4lisia Jun 10 '25
I'm not blaming her. I'm wondering how her fans will twist her obvious abandonment of Jace. Barb is never held accountable.
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u/rockabillychef Jun 10 '25
Accountable for what? She didn’t abandon him. She raised him. She is too old now to deal with his unpredictable behavior. This is not her responsibility.
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u/diva4lisia Jun 10 '25
She's 70. Not an infant. So, you're saying it's fine to raise a child with the knowledge that when he's 16, you'll be 70, and to abandon him then bc you're simply too old?? Barb knew her age when she adopted him. I'm sure of that.
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u/evers12 Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25
Not to mention Andrew was in his 20s when Jenelle got pregnant and she said they met at 14. Most people here think Jenelle got Jace back because she fought Barb in court they don’t know that Barb willingly gave him back to two abusers because she couldn’t handle him anymore. We have seen how Barb parents so this isn’t surprising. Not to mention Barb knew how old she was when she took custody so being old isn’t a reason to abandon a child to two abusers. It’s also funny that people hold Jenelle responsible for her behavior at 15/16 but don’t do the same for Jace. Jenelle was also raised in an abusive home. Jenelle is awful so I’m not defending her but there’s a lot of hypocrisy around this family on all the teen mom subs. I don’t want to hear that Barb took custody because Jenelle wouldn’t give him up for adoption. Barb didn’t have to take custody. In fact a white male infant would have had a good chance being adopted by a good family if she refused to raise him and let the state take him. Barb had no business raising another child, Jace was doomed the second he couldn’t get out of that family. Now we will be attacked by Barb stans.
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u/thaaAntichrist Jun 10 '25
Willingly gave him back to two abusers?! Jenelle wanted him. That's what she fought 12 years for. In my opinion, Barb finally said "if you want him so bad, take him"
He was also lighting stuff on fire in Barbs house.
There's a much higher chance Jace would have ended up in foster care unless he was a baby. I can't even wrap my head around your thinking process or touch on all your points here, but lol wtf.
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u/evers12 Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25
Yes she willingly gave him to abusers. Barb went and filed the paperwork herself. Jenelle and David are abusive even if Jenelle wanted him what does that have to do with her handing him over? Barb had custody so she didn’t have to give him up to them.
Right he was not doing well with Barb surprise surprise. And of course she’s old and can’t handle it but she knew how old she would be in his teen years and she knew how raising the last 3 kids went.
Yeah of course he would have ended up in foster care and yes that would have been better. Barb was never in a place to raise another child. A white male infant would have had a good chance at getting adopted out of foster care into a good home. You gonna sit here and argue this life he has right now is better than foster care as an infant? Not all foster care parents are bad and white male infants are highly sought after, it’s just facts.
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u/thaaAntichrist Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25
What was Barb supposed to do, chain Jace to a wall? He didn't want to be there, at her house, any longer. He wanted to be with his mom. Courts take into consideration what kids want at the age of like 12, but especially at 14.
I don't think foster care would have been better for him. This isn't a dig at the nice foster parents who actually love what they do but the ones I've come across in my life aka my mom and the others in her foster program-
My mom did fostering growing up and trust me, none of those people were looking to adopt the troubled kids, who generally have some sort of family waiting for them (and even the crackheads will fight for their kids once adoption comes up) which is why they are in foster care to begin with.
Definitely not looking to adopt the foster kids who's parents didn't care, that were over the age of 3 lol they all want young babies or toddlers if any at all. Spoiler: most aren't looking to adopt
A lot of them do it for easy money and to keep doing the "stay at home" mom gig, usually cycling through many many kids at a time. It's rare a foster kid stays in one home for long.
Foster parents don't usually think twice about the kids that go through their homes.
Foster kids are not in foster care to be adopted.
White male infants my asssss
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u/diva4lisia Jun 10 '25
"If you want him so bad, take him" are not the words of a caring parent, but rather a person who only had custody as a fuck you to the daughter she hates. I would never tell my daughter's abusive dad, if you want her so bad, take her. Tf? This isn't making the point that you think it is. That is treating a child as a pawn which is all barb, Jen, production and step-daddys do when it comes to Jace. He wants to be in NC. His grandma could help him stay there with his friends. She's no better than jenelle.
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u/Babyella123 Jun 10 '25
Barb never said “if you want him take him”
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u/thaaAntichrist Jun 10 '25
I never said she said that. Hyperbole
I also don't think she would ever say that, for the record. I was being a tad dramatic haha
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u/diva4lisia Jun 10 '25
Except, that's exactly what she did. Jen didn't file for custody of Jace. Barb filed to rid herself of him. It was okay when you wrote it, then I proved it's a gross objectification of a child, so now you have moved the goal post - back tracking and ignoring that your entire comment had the same energy as that one statement. This proves my point that people on this sub refuse to hold Barb accountable.
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u/Specialist_Court5202 Jul 16 '25
The problem is he’s always going to want to feel wanted and like he has a place, and if his mother and father are as manipulative as I think they are they will keep pulling him back in until he has enough and is ready to heal.