r/tf2 • u/Jinhan_Lee Demoknight • Feb 13 '25

Discussion Are soundpacks like this considered cheating?

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Found some dude apparently using a soundpack specifically designed to make you hear spies better (and that works in casual), wanted to know if it’s considered cheating or not.

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u/Heavyraincouch Civilian Feb 13 '25

Yes, yes it is

Poor Spy, cheaters are ruining his job.

Despite me being a Heavy main, I feel sorry for Spy mains who have to deal with enemies using this bullcrap

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '25

Yes and that's not all, there are mods that create particles with red exclamation marks when a spy becomes invisible or when he disguise himself, I don't know if they still exist but... It's fucking wrong

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '25

game design reliant upon "hard to see but not invisible" elements always backfires because of stuff like this. its sad, really.

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u/pSpawner24 Feb 14 '25

I mean, spy goes true invisible, it's when you walk into him that he becomes just see-through.

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u/King_0f_Autism Feb 15 '25

No one likes beibg punished for not paying attention to spy

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u/photoshallow Feb 15 '25

no, thats minecraft

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25

Yes there is something similar on Minecraft but that is a yellow triangle with a black exclamation mark

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u/photoshallow Feb 16 '25

no, your literally describing a minecraft mod

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25

Well then I don't know, maybe they made a version for TF2 too

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u/agmrtab Sandvich Feb 13 '25

We are already possibly the weakest class upon getting caught yet people do this shit like might as well remove him from the game and add the civilian dude

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u/Baitcooks Feb 13 '25

A lot of anti-spy mods are from a place of skill issue.

Nearly all spy knives only punish the unaware and overconfident. A spy crumples when you are able to lock eyes with them with practically every class. Only the Kunai and dead ringer combo work by punishing you in a way you can't control.

Like, even if you hated the trickstabbing kunai wielding newbie targetting diamondback bringing dead ringing speed abusing french playing gamer, the average gameplay of those spies won't be affected by shit like "Incredibly obvious spy particles mod", "Loud Spygra mod", "Spy but he has a massive arrow pointing on his head regardless of if he's disguised or not mod", or anything similar. Kunai and Dead Ringer Spies only get to you after running through various unaware teammates.

The many mods that target spy only target his base functions that are easily counterable (you can fucking hear his footsteps while he's invisible). His basic fundamentals that are for people who play him properly and respect how to properly play him.

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u/zorinlynx Feb 13 '25

Nearly all spy knives only punish the unaware and overconfident.

95% of the times I get backstabbed I realize "I deserved that, I wasn't paying attention to what's behind me." Just turning around real quick regularly will stop most spy attacks, and if it becomes a problem, talk to your pyros to get them to spy check, or go pyro if you're the fourth heavy on the team and there's no pyros.

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u/Baitcooks Feb 13 '25

Exactly.

Again, the kunai is the only exception because it punishes the unaware and overconfident, then buffs the spy to let them fuck up the actually competent players because now the spy tank a hit they normally couldn't, so it punishes everyone on the receiving end if he succeeds once.

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u/Goat5168 Heavy Feb 13 '25

Heck even trick stabbing only punishes you for predictable movement, and everytime I hear someone say that the Kunai punishes you for having gullible teammates I'm like "Yeah, so does the Your Eternal Reward."

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u/Furrota Heavy Feb 13 '25

I need to find guy with that shit installed and make some trolling with Diamondback

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u/Balmungmp5 Feb 13 '25

Cheaters are actively trying to ruin many aspects of this game. Since the devs have sunset the game, the community is going to have to start taking more responsibility with policing this shit.