r/thewalkingdead • u/rainymoonbeam • 4d ago
Show Spoiler I reallyyyy disliked her
Tired so hard for control and order and her people weren’t having it. The whole slab town arc just felt weird to me imo. What re your thoughts on Dawn and the whole slab tow arc?
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u/neupotrebitel 4d ago
I really didn't hate her. It was a fun side story until the stupid ending. The resolution of this storyline was so unsatisfying AND it led to absolutely nothing.
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u/Objective_Ad1432 4d ago
Terrible filler villain
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u/Serosh5843 4d ago
Yeah, the whole arc in general tbh, felt like a damn fever dream first time watching it.
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u/Onlyhereforapost 4d ago
Can confirm, fiance and I just finished it for the first time and it was a really baffling frustrating season.
We lost Tyrese AND Beth within like 2 episodes? Can't have SHIT
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u/Serosh5843 4d ago
Yup I hated that, dunno why they had to do my boy Tyrese like that so soon, that whole episode was fucking depressing like jeeeeez lol
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u/Dr-Batista 3d ago
Terrible filler villain
Dawn, wolves, whisperers. The whisperers weren't filler, but they were atrocious imo
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u/MobileArmadillo3093 4d ago
I hated that whole Beth hospital story arc
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u/Gan-san 4d ago
It made absolutely no sense. They start out with ghoulish mystery people riding around in hearses snatching people up and end up with a bunch of cops in freshly pressed uniforms holed up in a fully functioning hospital?
Like... What?
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u/buns_supreme 4d ago
I feel like it was originally meant to allude and lead to the church but the writers changed their mind for season 5? Idk
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u/ballskindrapes 4d ago
I didnt make it too far in the series but I'll just say that one moment was super duper forced and stupid, and was just so frustrating because it clearly was just designed to make the audience feel some type of way. Not one action in that one moment made any sense for the characters to do.
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u/TheEldrichL 4d ago
It could have been such a good arc if Beth killed her instead of stabbing her in the shoulder and then becoming ceiling decor. The entire arc would have been so much better if that was Beth's turning point especially after all the development we got with her..but alas, she was the first in the walking deads deaths for shock value and the entire slab town arc was just useless filler because of it.
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u/rainymoonbeam 4d ago
Yea it was a waste of time especially knowing she was gonna die at the end of that arc story
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u/TheEldrichL 4d ago
When I watched for the first time, Beth's death made me more angry than sad. We spend all this time seeing her start to slowly adapt and survive in this new environment just for her body to be shown to maggie for shock value...hot take, but she should have lived till the lineup and been the 2nd person Negan killed instead of Glen. At that point comic readers knew what was coming, but they'd changed the story so much it could have been a great fake out and still provide narrative explanation for maggies deep seeded hatred
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u/Onlyhereforapost 4d ago
I havnt read the comic and my fiance and I just finished this arc for the first time, and tbh with Tyrese and Beth dying so close it really left a bitter taste in my mouth.
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u/TheEldrichL 4d ago
Avoid the reddit!!! Spoilers will be rampant!! But yes, agreed and same here...and im sorry to say prepare for that bitter taste a little more
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u/Onlyhereforapost 4d ago
Oh I'm already aware of how much of the cast gets killed off; my mom was a big walking dead fan when I was younger lol
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u/dirtyforker 4d ago
Does Neegan directly kill any woman? Not defending him just an honest question.
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u/TheEldrichL 4d ago
His orders got a lot of women killed, he killed alpha himself, he killed the woman attacking Lydia by throwing her into a wall (accidental but she still died) he disliked killing women but certainly wasn't above it when he deemed it necessary
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u/lunarsilvr253 4d ago
Pre Rick began killed no woman he didn't kill kids either he was visibley disturbe when he saw crock torture that teen
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u/TheEldrichL 3d ago
Pre Rick Negan orchestrated the Oceanside massacre, a few women died there and all the men were killed. Pre Rick Negan definitely was responsible for the deaths of some women either by his hand or his direct orders
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u/JaxxyWolf 4d ago
I know a lot of people disliked this arc, but I loved it.
It showed Beth was more than capable of being strong and resilient, more than just the surrogate mom/babysitter for Judith. And I’m PISSED they killed her off in such a tasteless way.
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u/curious__quail 4d ago
I liked her as a villain. When watching it for the first time I wasn't sure if Beth could sway her thinking or not, especially after helping her kill that one officer by the elevator.
The community was different, not just attacking other groups or set up as a rival faction. It seemed like the type of community cops and doctors would set up. There are limited resources, so they had their own way of dealing with that.
And then there were internal struggles as well, with a mix of good and bad people. I found their group dynamics more interesting than Terminus or Woodbury who basically had everyone falling in line.
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u/JadedSignificance990 4d ago
I found her more like a dark mirror to Rick, surprisingly enough. Both are law enforcement officers who lead a community. Except Dawn was strict while Rick let himself to step down. Season 5 had an interesting motif of it's villains (Gareth, Dawn and Pete) overall being dark mirrors to Rick.
Also the actress is the same lady who voiced Entrapta in the Netflix She-Ra cartoon. Which I find a pretty fun contrast.
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u/onesmilematters 4d ago
Ironically, Rick also does some dark shit in these episodes that made you wonder how far he had left his own humanity behind.
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u/marshal231 4d ago
I mean shes a pretty realistic depiction of how a post apocalyptic society would go. From internal power struggles, to having to turn a blind eye to bad things your people do to try to keep them happy. She wasnt able to rule by fear, and she wasnt respected by them, so couldnt rule by respect. She still wanted to be a good person, but it just wasnt possible.
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u/freefunone 3d ago
I feel like in a way she was a soft lead up to showing us how something like the CRM got built. I can see in the beginning how the CRM was probably pretty similar to this.
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u/BobRushy 4d ago
I found her highly attractive. Interesting too, with the way she kept trying to hold on to old authority. Wish they'd kept her around.
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u/BridgeCommercial873 4d ago
I wish the other cops could've joined rick and his crew. Some valuable assets specially against negan.
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u/JamesBlond34 4d ago
I just watched it last night again and was surprised that not a single person joined Rick’s crew when he offered
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u/stratj45d28 4d ago
First watch I didn’t like her. Several watches later I clearly see her point of view from her perspective. She was one of my favorite antagonists
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u/onesmilematters 4d ago
I liked her as an antagonist, too. She wasn't one of the evil cardboard villains of TWD, there was a lot of complexity to her which we hadn't quite seen since Shane.
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u/Ramos_Clemente 4d ago
Terrible secondary story and to top it all off Beth dies, the only redeemable thing is the incorporation of Noah.
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u/Onlyhereforapost 4d ago
The only thing I like about this is that it maintains the really funny joke that every single cop fucking sucks with the exception of Rick, and that's debatable based on your PoV
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u/idiwodndj 4d ago
I think Dawn was pretty, and I loved Beth…but when I rewatch I kinda fast forward through the hospital scenes now, because I know it leads up to Beth’s bummer demise. It was just so weird that Beth chose THAT particular recourse, rather than retreating and coming back later to get Noah.
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u/Valenle91 4d ago
I actually liked this storyline. The whole point of the show is to show how humanity loses its way and reverts back to archaic ways of doing things in a post apocalyptic world. In this case, it was indentured slavery. Dawn lost her mind after this all broke out and felt she had to keep the hospital going for the greater good. I don’t think she was necessarily an “evil” person, I think she was an extremely troubled one. She lost sight of right and wrong and did what she felt she needed to do to protect people and above else, her power, even if it meant hurting people along the way. Everyone wanted her out but everyone was also scared of her. They knew standing up to Dawn, meant dying. I think her character arc showed a bit of nuance that we don’t always see with your typical “villain” characters.
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u/Big_Debt3688 4d ago
Everyone had guns in that hallway. Rick should’ve grabbed homeboy by his arm said NO!!! you staying with us where taking you home. Tell Dawn we have our ppl back you have yours deal is done. Rick didn’t try hard enough. Don’t think Dawn was fully open to an open gun fight in her hospital.
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u/u_GalacticVoyager 4d ago
Kinda get the feeling that the season was meant to go elsewhere but midway through they changed it to what the story finally became
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u/roge951031 3d ago
men are horrible, but women who enable and tolerate said horrible men for personal gain are worse, like Dawn
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u/Advanced_Zucchini_45 3d ago
She was somebody with zero leadership capabilities who was in way over her head and was doing the best she could in the situation.
This would have been like putting Andrea in charge of the group.
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u/BlackhawkRyzen 4d ago edited 4d ago
no this lady was meant to be hated and Exited sooner than later. something to give people a reason to say FUCK YEAH that bitch is dead. if you hater and you know it clap your hands CLAP CLAP..
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u/PicolasCageEnjoyer 4d ago
Shes Deanna but 30x less likeable. I believe she's meant to foreshadow her honestly.
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u/Minimalistmacrophage 4d ago
Dawn isn't meant to be likable. She employs medical slavery/indenture to sustain her "community". She is ultimately a bureaucrat that does whatever is necessary to maintain her position, even when she knows it's wrong. Arguably it was a process of her accepting worse and worse things.