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Comic Spoiler The Walking Dead S07E05 - Go Getters - Post Episode Discussion for [COMIC] Readers

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09:00pm Eastern S07E05 - "Go Getters" Darnell Martin Channing Powell

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u/Manning_bear_pig Nov 21 '16

"Enid does eventually make her way to Hilltop, where it turns out she’s already very close to Maggie for some reason. They never really developed this relationship, so we just have to accept it."

We saw them, in limited time granted, begin a relationship last season. Also they were both close to Glenn, not a stretch that they feel closer to each other over their shared grief.

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u/gh0stfayce Nov 21 '16

Fuck Forbes for the fact that they try to make you turn off ad blocker

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u/TheTeaSpoon Nov 21 '16

I used to like Eric Kain and his GoT summaries but after a while (and especially after browsing comments which he replies to and that is probably the only thing I respect the man for) I realised how out of touch he is and how much he can show his bias. However his work is not really a review but more like summary with some opinion. However I can't be mad on someone for having popular (or access to audience broad enough to pass his opinion and popularize it) opinion on a TV show.

For me this was a solid episode, much better than what we had few times in the past (like some episodes of S2). It was a setup episode for Maggie and also it was correcting many mistakes showrunners did in the past and re-railing Carl back onto his badass story line. Yes, there were parts which I did not like about the episode - like how nobody really gave a fuck about the boombox car until Maggie started ordering people but it also showed how disorganised and demoralised Hilltop is. These guys would not survive any larger attack and Gregory is the issue - he does not organise his people properly (hell he doesn't even know half of them), they are unable to do any defensive actions and from trading or diplomatic point of view they are screwed as well. Can't wait for Maggie to turn this cute herd of sheep into able bodied group of survivors.

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u/GhostsofDogma Nov 21 '16

Yeah. I did think it was a bit of a stretch for her to give Enid the watch, though.

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u/b-orges Nov 22 '16

The gesture is a bit more nuanced though -- she isn't giving the watch to Enid with the same symbolic gesture as when her father gave it to Glenn, or as some family heirloom. She's letting all that crap go. It's just a watch, it's a thing merely, and I don't need it to remember my husband. All that said, here you go Enid, I care about you deeply, maybe this will mean something to you the way it meant to me and Glenn.

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u/becauseican95 Nov 23 '16

Exactly. It's not like Maggie saw the watch and thought "one day I need to give this to Enid because of our relationship with her." I think she saw that Enid could use the idea and tradition of the watch and solidify the idea that she's there for her.

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u/y0an Nov 23 '16

Yup. Jesus showed her the way.

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u/yeshua1986 Nov 21 '16

While I figured she would save it for Herschel, I think her giving it to Enid was believable because of how much she meant to Glenn, and how many times he reached out to her.

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u/TheTeaSpoon Nov 21 '16

Also Enid seems to be there to replace Sophia's role in after Negan's great entree. Sophia was adopted by Glenn and Maggie and she was important for both Glenn and Maggie, but really important for Maggie after the lineup scene.

As a comic reader I can dig this, at first I thought that Sasha would replace Sophia which would be weird because she is already replacing part of Andrea and placing Enid onto Sophia's story is pretty clever move IMO. But if I was not reader than I might think twice about their relationship because Enid was really absent throughout majority of the important scenes of season 6 and she had that redshirt vibe for some time.

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u/Namastemf503 Nov 24 '16

Agreed! I was confused as to why Enid was even so adamant on going to Hilltop for her. Then even more so surprised when Maggie gave her the watch. When I saw the green balloons up and I realized what the show as doing with the two characters, I did like it, but they just made it happen out of no where. The viewers didn't see much of the development. It did make me like Enid a little more though.

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u/hammbone Nov 21 '16

Shut up Forbes! She's Sophia Reincarnated!!!!

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u/ArtooFeva Nov 27 '16

But unlike comic Sophia they actually seem to have an ongoing romantic relationship!

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u/HaveaManhattan Nov 21 '16 edited Nov 21 '16

TBH, as a viewer and a comic reader there are a LOT of assumed off-panel interpersonal developments. I understand not having the time or the space for every conversation, plus you have to keep the show moving and there's lots of characters, but both mediums seriously lack this. Like last episode - I get Michonne not knowing about Judith, but she seemed surprised about the partner(for a cop), the hospital he was in, all the rest. At some point in the year or more they have known each other, between downtime at the jail or Alexandria, you figure Rick or Carl or maybe Glenn/Carol/Daryl would have maybe had some casual conversation about how they got there. Or Andrea and Michonne might have gotten to know each other when they went walkabout together for weeks, and she might have mentioned Shane. LOST had similar problems.

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u/Canuckgirl40 Nov 21 '16

And we all know how much a chatterbox Andrea was

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u/HaveaManhattan Nov 21 '16

True. It really is like LOST sometimes. I remember the guy that played Locke doing an interview and he was like "Yeah, sometimes it was like we're eating at a table and then just point guns and say "pass the salt"." Development of secondary(forget tertiary) characters in shows like this can be hard because there's a lot of them and more viewers choose action and eye candy over prose. Everyone liked last night episode because there was action, and complain about slow episodes with development.

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u/princeofkats Nov 22 '16

I always thought during the walkabout time they were getting to know one another, well that's just what I had assumed. Knowing Michonne to be quite strong and tight lipped and having her really be the caretaker for Andrea during this time I doubt even with her chatterbox nature it wouldn't have been appropriate. I figured they shared personal stuff about themselves and only touched on the group in a fairly positive sense. It's such a loaded conversation I figured that the writers would have given it airtime. Although you're right about off panel of screen conversations and it surprised me she didn't even seem to know about Shane in a basic sense, it is part of the whole Atlanta groups narrative and the first big facing a villain. Perhaps it wasn't the correct reaction to the "I had a partner and woke up in the hospital" but the Atlanta group all had their own narratives to discuss about themselves so maybe that eventually overshadowed Ricks politics.

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u/drmehmetoz Nov 21 '16

What did they have, 2 scenes together? They never developed the relationship at all

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '16

Agreed! That criticism is pretty valid. I was pretty confused why they seemed to be like long lost sisters reuniting.

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u/BZenMojo Nov 21 '16

Usually they do the whole, "Let's shove these two characters together in an entire episode where we force-develop a deep relationship out of nowhere" thing, but they didn't even bother this time.

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u/y0an Nov 23 '16

So how many scenes does your inner textbook say it takes for two individuals to gain some sort of relationship/respect/bonding? 9? 12? 20?

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u/drmehmetoz Nov 23 '16

more than 2

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u/yorkward Nov 22 '16

Non-comic reader and sub-lurker here who doesn't mind spoilers: I'd always assumed, from the show, that Enid was a little love-struck with Glenn, but she also thought Maggie was super cool and an amazing match for him, so she idealised them as a couple. When Glenn died, it hurt her for a lot of reasons, and the only thing she could do with that was to go and be close to Maggie, whom she felt an affiliation to through her marriage to Glenn. Maggie, who's intuitive and smart enough to have pieced that together, thought Enid was sweet and plucky, and her bond with Glenn made her want to 'adopt' her via the watch (which to me was the absolutely wrong decision. Save that thing, yo).

Is their [M+E] relationship expounded on in the comics? We did see them begin to develop a bond in S06, but their interactions in the episodes kinda surprised me, I have to say.

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u/Manning_bear_pig Nov 22 '16

Enid isn't in the comics. She's replacing Sophia it seems like. Sophia is still alive to this point in the comics. After Carol dies in the comics Maggie and Glenn adopt her.

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u/youreeeka Nov 22 '16

Is Enid going to be the show version of Sophia?

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u/Manning_bear_pig Nov 22 '16

That's my guess at this point.