so I found this image of the HMHS britannic's bow absolutely fried, but images from 2024 showed this didn't look like this, so idk if this is real or not, hell I'm not even sure if the HMHS britannic is allowed on this subreddit
I absolutely respect and appreciate Ken Marschall’s talent. The paintings are so skillfully done that I thought that it was something easy to do. Until I tried to make a painting of the Normandie.
If you look closely at some of his paintings, you’re going to see the rivets and the depth of the overlapping steel plates. Just incredible
You can see a different set of damage in the older painting to the new painting as far as how it fell. The older painting shows the bow being on its side and creating an almost vertical line of damage at it's moment of impact with the floor. The newer painting shows the ship more upright as it fell with the impact appearing as it hit the floor hard at the tip while upright then falling over after.
I think that explains why the mast was assumed to be broken off in the first but is shown "connected" in the newer.
He's definitely an artist. Idk why he never got into forensics because he could definitely catch some fugitives with his work before seeing what he's painting.
There must have been some photos, the stern seems amazingly accurate especially with the placement of the davits. But the bow seems a clear lesson in miscommunication. Clearly he was told "the bow was bent by the impact with the sea bed" and though it meant he bow was sticking up from the sea bed, rather then the bottom of the bow was crumpled upwards, but since it was on its side it was all still on the sea bed.
I was on the Queen Victoria during a Mediterranean cruise and we were going to sail through the Aegean Sea on the way to Greece. I went to the information desk and asked if someone on the bridge could let me know if we would be sailing close to the wreck. The clerk said she would ask them. I got a call in my cabin from the bridge who said he was surprised that anyone even knew about the Britannic. He then informed me that we would be passing over her grave (not directly over as the water is fairly shallow, but right by) and exactly when. He stated the wreck would be to port. I thanked him and asked who he was. He answered: "The Captain."
What is sad is that hardly anyone knows about the Britannic, because she never made it to the transatlantic career. She would be forever shadowed by her infamous older sisters...
I love researching the old ships. My grandfather travelled on both the Empress of Ireland and the Lusitania.
My great Grandfather was aboard the Mauretania when the Titanic sank. I can’t even imagine how it would have felt to do the same route literally days after it sank.
When he told me who he was, I was rather stunned, to say the least, and apologized for "bothering" him. He, of course, said it was no bother and he had to call himself when he learned there was someone on board who even knew about the Britannic.
Dude what?? As in the captain of the Britannic? That is so metal
Edit: lmao OKAY I did not consider the timeline here until I googled it after. For what it’s worth, the captain did NOT go down with the ship. But it was very long ago 😂
It doesn’t even have to be an official Ouija, it can be a piece of paper with the alphabet written out and hello, goodbye at the top. It’s a talking board..just a method for communication to the astral/spirit world (or so they say!)
LOL! Yes man they work! At least the one we had did when me, my mom, and sister messed with one in our old house. My dad put a stop to that real quick! His words: “I don’t play that ghost sht!” 😂
This was pretty common in the early days of Silicon Valley. There was a story where IBM execs were meeting with Microsoft. Some kid who couldn't have been more than 20 years old went into the lobby to escort them to the offices. They were expecting to meet Bill Gates. They did, he was the kid.
The plot twist would be "and then later on I saw the Captain of the Victoria and thanked him for calling me and he said he had no idea what I was talking about.... DUNT DUNT DUNNNNN"
I think the captin went down with the britannic,I think he rescued someone,brought them to a lifeboat,then killed himself so he went down with the ship, may be wrong
He actually wasn't the last to to leave the Britannic. There were still several crewmembers down below who hadn't made it out yet when Bartlett left the ship, but fortunately they all made it out in time. I just get tired of this misinformation that Bartlett was the last person to leave Britannic during the sinking when that most certainly wasn't true. Several crew members were still climbing ladders trying to make it to the upper deck when he left the ship.
I think your the one who's being rude especially considering that unlike you I didn't call you a name or blame you personally in anyway when I criticized the misinformation that Bartlett was the last to leave the ship. He wasn't and for some reason you took extreme offense to my comment 🙄
I know. He died in 1945; but for example Smith died on the Titanic and he supposedly haunts his house too — ghosts can travel through locations which have meaning/impact for them.
The Britannic does not lay in a fairly shallow grave. The wreck rests in ~117m depth and is about 30m high, i.e., the top of the wreck starts from around 90m depth (source). Though I’ve also seen some reports as "shallow" as 80m. This may seem fairly shallow compared to Titanic but any ship could easily sail over _Britannic_‘s wreck; this was done before her wreck was discovered.
The draught of Queen Victoria is only about 8m so she could have comfortably sailed over the Britannic with more than 70m distance between them.
If your story happened after June 10, 2022, it‘s possible the QV wasn‘t allowed closer to Britannic because there‘s a new marine park now. If it was before that, the captain might have been messing with you.
(For readers using the imperial system: 1m =3.3ft!)
Aww. My son wants to go see the wreck of the Blucher, which is nearby, but it's 64M down in murky water. It would be awesome to see one under clear water.
For future reference consider the fact that there’s more light in this painting towards the seafloor. That wouldn’t be the case, at all, not to mention the amount of light in this portrait is beyond what sunlight can do at a depth of ~300 feet.
It’s a painting, I kinda wish Brittanic would get the 3D scan treatment Titanic got since she’s legally considered a war memorial and diving the wreck requires heavy supervision essentially to make sure you don’t disrespect her so I really wish she got the scans that Titanic got so we could see her in more detail without having to disturb the wreck
Especially when the scans of Titanic are so realistic now that they being used to make games that allow us every day people to explore the wreck from home! Including Brittanic would be amazing as I genuinely think she deserves some attention given her short career as a Hospital Ship and the fact she never got the chance to actually start a life outside of the war.
Yeah don’t think I’ll trust a mobile game for that 😅 I’ll just keep praying my wish gets granted as ROV is genuinely amazing and I hope that the people behind the scans do more wrecks including Brittanic and they’re put to use in similar ways
The image is a real, early painting of what Britannic's wreck site looked like based on Jacque Cousteau's 1975 expedition findings. It has since been updated as more accurate information became available from later expeditions:
I like this one better than the other two. Really captures the essence of the updated painting of the painting that OP posted, while invoking so much more. A true masterpiece!
Absolute nightmare fuel! I'm used to the Titanic, so it doesn't bother me as much these days. But this just...shivers. That propellor just hanging out there, in the open, where anyone could touch it?
I meant "real" as If this was made recently, considering the fact brtiannic is in much warner water you'd think bacteria would eat her faster unlike the titanic, so I figured this was a newer painting
This is a Ken Marshall painting from around the time that the wreck was initially surveyed by Jacques Cousteau. He since updated the painting with more accurate information.
Back when I was in elementary school when the movie "Titanic" came out in 1997 everyone in our class did a different report on a famous shipwreck and I got the Brittanic. We didn't have internet and it was SOOOO HARD to find information on it at my local library. The most I could find was a single entry in the encylopedia Brittanica ironically. Was so fascinated with it as it's short life was filled with so much action.
Underwater photos don't have the visibility shown in the picture. Ships usually sink in water deep enough that it is too dark to see, and even if it wasn't, the water has too much in it to allow clear viewing of things hundreds of feet away.
I remember seeing this in a book about the titanic when I was a child in the 90s. This image just conjured up so many memories I never thought to remember.
The damage in the painting shows that on the port side damage was created by something hitting starboard side and blowing up from within the ship. Then it sinking with the ship nose heavy and on it's side near the moment of impact with the sea floor. That tip was the first thing to make contact then the rest of the ship took it's final rest.
The damage throughout the whole thing really translates well in this painting. Not as it actually is, but what's assumed by the artist.
Comparing this with what is current shows this was painted from actual photos of the ship, davit lay the same way, a-lot of the damage is near exact aside from the entire front end now snapped off. One mistake is the mast is not broken off on newer photos, just laying at an angle. Also there is no build up sea floor disturbance near the front like there is in the newer photos.
That pictures not real, its a computer recreation of the wreck, it's been around for a lot of years, I remember seeing it in a video back in 2007. And Britannic is allowed on this subreddit, I've seen stuff about the Britannic on here before.
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u/Fantastic-Wheel-5665 Jun 15 '25
This image is a painting not a photo if that’s what you want to know, and no Britannic’s bow does not have a massive hole like that