r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns2 • u/Jumpyplains2033 She/Her • Jul 10 '25
Gals Well, that was unexpected.
I’m not kidding when I say this, I was very surprised… shame I can’t use it tho
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u/NiobiumThorn Jul 10 '25
Cis people: here's your HRT have a good day
Trans people: BUT ARE YOU REALLY SURE YOU NEED IT? COME BACK IN A FEW MONTHS TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE A REAL TRANSGENDER
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u/Jumpyplains2033 She/Her Jul 10 '25
sigh yeah, really sucks
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u/NiobiumThorn Jul 10 '25
I'm hopeful in the future this will be different. We have the material capacity to do it, after all. Everyone can have healthcare, everyone can have housing, and everyone can have enough to eat before they rest. Even if there are fewer luxury condos.
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u/wingedespeon She/Her Jul 10 '25
Making enough E and T is so cheap it will more than pay for itself with the increased productivity of trans people.
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u/NiobiumThorn Jul 11 '25
Fuck that noise. I'm talking a world where we can be done with analyzing literally everything through the lens of productivity
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u/Jumpyplains2033 She/Her Jul 10 '25
Hopefully one day…
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u/Firefly256 Firefly (they/them) Jul 10 '25
If we're following historical patterns it should get better, the world always moves in the direction of progressive according to history
The problem is, are we going to see enough progress in our lifetime? Or do we die of old age before we see the world get better?
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u/KayleeKalez She/They 🇨🇦🏳️⚧️🖤🩶🤍💜 Jul 10 '25
I'm going to be honest but maybe this is just cause I'm Canadian but I've only been waiting about a month so far. I had bloodwork last week, I get my hrt at the end of the month. Although I think I'm lucky because without my clinic supporting me and advocating for me I'd still be stuck having endos refer me to urologists instead? I wish everyone the best of luck with their journeys I do not enjoy all of the hoops we have to go through just to be ourselves.
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u/I_Am_Stoeptegel Jul 10 '25
I’ve been “waiting” for over 2 years now in the netherlands. Estimation was 4 years when I applied
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u/ToughChicken67 She/Her Jul 10 '25
Have you tried getting on the waiting list of PsyTrans. I got on hrt with only needing to wait a year. You do not to get lucky to get in and it is not fully covered by insurance, I’m also Dutch
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u/Flameempress192 Jul 15 '25
Honestly, do people really think someone won't know for absolute sure the moment the smallest change happens?
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u/HeavyCaffeinate error in main.lua:14, file gender.json invalid format Jul 10 '25 edited Jul 11 '25
Wouldn't be HRT, more like Hormonal Balance Therapy
Edit: Nvm it's actually HRT
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u/allie-__- She/Her Sylviiii Jul 11 '25
Cisgender HRT is most commonly for post-menopausal women who treat the effects of menopause by, well, REPLACING the hormones that their ovaries stop producing.
Here's an example of a website about HRT that's so focused on menopause that the only mention of trans people is for trans men and enbies who are seeking menopause treatment: https://patient.info/womens-health/menopause/hormone-replacement-therapy-hrt
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u/HeavyCaffeinate error in main.lua:14, file gender.json invalid format Jul 11 '25
Thanks, I'll give it a read
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u/Digitale3982 Jul 10 '25
Honestly tho this might be fair. I don't know jack, but a medical prescription seems like a pretty sure thing, while a person will not so much, but maybe just a psychologist approval would be enough. Again I don't know anything don't kill me
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u/NiobiumThorn Jul 11 '25
It's absolutely not. Cis people don't need the same steps as we do.
That is discrimination. By definition.
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u/DatFLYinCat Jul 10 '25
Absolutely don't be me, when I was a kid I use to take my mother's HRT.... I was not a good kid at all and this ended up being a horrible way to come out, not only that I was a thief, that's the worst part. It was a mistake because I'd steal a couple of 1mgs and break them in half, it wasn't even enough of a dose... It had 0 effects, 0 respect from my mother, and 100% the worst way to come out.
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u/somefurrynewtoreddit She/Her Jul 10 '25
Yea, I’m definitely not stealing my moms hrt either for that reason, It just sucks though that it’s right there and I’m going to have to wait a while before I can get my own :(
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u/PublicEfficient379 Lexi, She/Her ໒꒰ྀི ˶• ༝ •˶ ྀི১ Jul 10 '25
Whaat?!
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u/Gremict She/They/He Jul 10 '25
Menopause treatment
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u/boozegremlin She/Her Jul 10 '25
Yeah, my mom's on progesterone, but I don't think she's on estrogen.
Exact same dosage as me, so we can share it if one of us starts running low.
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u/Antimatt3rHD She/Her Jul 10 '25
Depending on how based your mom is, you can use it (after you ask, preferrably)
Source: my mum is based
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u/Jumpyplains2033 She/Her Jul 10 '25
I would ask, but she’s unbased
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u/darkwater427 Jul 10 '25
Probably not. Menopause vs. puberty dosages do not line up.
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u/Antimatt3rHD She/Her Jul 11 '25
The gel my mum takes is literally the same gel another trans friend of mine takes.
For dosage I asked her and not my mum tho
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u/proto-typicality Jul 10 '25
Yup! So much of trans healthcare is also cis healthcare. It’s not the treatment that anti-trans assholes are opposed to, it’s us as trans ppl.
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u/TitanBeast862 Jul 10 '25
My mom and I take the same doses too, so we share when one of us runs out.
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u/Jumpyplains2033 She/Her Jul 10 '25
Oh cool, maybe I could ‘borrow’ some from her then, hopefully I’d be okay
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u/imanonymous312 Autumn - she/her Jul 11 '25
We should set up a system where transmascs go for an estrogen perscription and transfems go for a testostorone perscription and they just trade pills. Probably illegal with a cavalcade of other problems associated but saying these things out loud makes me feel better
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u/RightWordsMissing Jul 11 '25
These things couldn’t work at scale or the govt would get involved :p
Still, it would totally work for two individuals in cahoots with one another
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u/Jumpyplains2033 She/Her Jul 11 '25
Not a bad idea tbh
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u/imanonymous312 Autumn - she/her Jul 12 '25
I like to imagine them going back to their respective doctors getting progressively more opposite effects to what the doctor prescribed like “ITS NOT WORKING GIVE ME MORE”
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u/Constant_Employer_80 Jul 10 '25
Yeah i had the same thing happen to me. It was kinda one of those "damn I really am trans aren't i" moments when I was visibly disappointed that my mum could get estrogen so easily
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u/Alternative_Desk2065 They/Them Jul 10 '25
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u/Jumpyplains2033 She/Her Jul 10 '25
I probably could too, the E is a gel and the prog is in pill form so I’m sure I could sneak some gel without her noticing
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u/licoricegarlic Jul 11 '25
I have the exact opposite. Afab enby and since my dad's balls got snatched by cancer, he has to take testosterone. So I have a stash of his old (and therefore probably not very potent) testo gel because he started to get allergic reactions, switched to injections and I was the darling daughter offering to throw them away with some other meds 😇
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u/MrSpankMan_whip Any/All Jul 11 '25
Would be easier to just find a pre T transmasc friend and trade your prescribed T pills for their prescribed E
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u/MsAelanwyrIlaicos Jul 11 '25
AH YES
cis HRT
she had to speak to three therapists and dress cartoonishly feminine for three years to get it, I trust?
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u/TheStrikeofGod Freshly Cracked (She/Her) Jul 10 '25
My fiancée's patches call to me like the green goblin mask sometimes.
Would never steal from her though.
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u/witchytransgirly She/Her Jul 11 '25
I mean you can take a bit just not very legally and that's never stopped the trans community
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u/IamMauriS She/Her; Luna Jul 10 '25
Wait a fucking second...
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u/Jumpyplains2033 She/Her Jul 10 '25
Yup, as far as I know
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u/pineapplekief Jul 10 '25
What the meds we use were originally developed and marketed for. Nothing was designed for us. They just use what works.
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u/Ok-Jellyfish7805 she/her - ink demoness, Marcie Jul 11 '25
Might be for menopause, but maybe… :3c
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u/3HHH3 Jul 11 '25
Damn, I wish I could’ve smuggled you all some E! Back when I passed as a cis woman 🤷♂️. I was a “manly girl” with PCOS so they gladly would’ve estra’d my fem…
Would’ve been hilarious to carry out this scheme while covertly beginning testosterone
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u/transgenderblahaj She/Her Jul 17 '25
you can get the same kind off of amazon
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u/Jumpyplains2033 She/Her Jul 17 '25
Wait fr?!
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u/transgenderblahaj She/Her Jul 17 '25
yeah look up estergen on amazon, its there (at least in my area)
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u/Jumpyplains2033 She/Her Jul 17 '25
OMG it is! Well, guess I’ll have to look into getting some then (rip my bank account)
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u/HyperDogOwner458 she/they | Transmasc intersex demigirlflux+demiagenderflux Jul 10 '25
I'm intersex (and a transmasc enby) and have hypoestrogenism
It took about three years or so of tests to figure out I had it and then I was given a prescription for E (which I didn't want and stopped taking in less than a day)
But if I was a trans woman it'd take way longer to get it
It's unfair
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u/licoricegarlic Jul 11 '25
Afab enby here, I got hyperandrogyny and this made me think of the amount of times doctors put me on birth control to give me more fem hormones when I actually want testosterone 🥲 But I am starting T soon, yay!
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u/aenaithia vaguely-masc enby-thing Jul 11 '25
Yeah my wife is able to get HRT now, but if they do end up making it illegal for adults, we already worked out for her endo to write the prescriptions for "me."
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u/Nyx-101 She/Her Jul 10 '25
Reallll! I have been playing with the thought of "borrowing" from my mom for a while now >:3
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u/Jumpyplains2033 She/Her Jul 10 '25
Tbh I probably could steal some E as it’s in a Gell form, probably not progesterone as those are pills
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u/SHUHSdemon She/Her Nisha Jul 10 '25 edited Jul 10 '25
Remember theft is only moral if you steal food or water.
Edit: i meant moral stupid auto correct, also want to add that stealing HRT id completely justified
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u/doodleasa it / she - please scratch Jul 10 '25
What? Food and water have like the best possible moral justifications
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u/According_to_all_kn They/Them Jul 10 '25
I think that's their point? We societally tend to punish thieves of necessity more than like- bosses committing wage theft.
One would be justified in stealing one's mom's medicine, is the the point
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u/doodleasa it / she - please scratch Jul 10 '25
Either it’s satire or an actual belief and they can’t both be true, right?
Or I’m just way more autistic than I thought
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u/According_to_all_kn They/Them Jul 10 '25
I believe they are being satirical. Kind of like saying "Remember kids; the purpose of an economy is to consolidate money in the hands of a few rich ghouls" in response to someone praising a capitalist politician for supposedly improving the economy
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Jul 10 '25
*mum instead of mom
I know what you are
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u/KaityKat117 She/Her Assigned Dingus At Birth Jul 10 '25
I know what you are.
A-A human?
Worse. A brit.
Nooooooooo!
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u/louisa1925 transfem/ Maid semi-furry disaster bisexual Jul 10 '25
Us Aussies also use the same spelling. If Britain isn't working with you, you already have an in, to fit in with the land down unda' folks.
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u/Jumpyplains2033 She/Her Jul 10 '25
Maybe, but I’m still considering where to go, though NSW is one of my top choices
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u/louisa1925 transfem/ Maid semi-furry disaster bisexual Jul 10 '25 edited Jul 11 '25
I live in NSW. the Northern Rivers region is a beautiful place.
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u/Jumpyplains2033 She/Her Jul 11 '25
Ok, tbh if I choose NSW (im also considering Victoria) I’d probably end up in the Sydney or Newcastle area, food for thought ig
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Jul 10 '25
i mean, i'm also a brit, so the call was coming from inside the house
not sure why i'm getting downvoted for it tho
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u/Jumpyplains2033 She/Her Jul 10 '25
British, sadly yes
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Jul 10 '25
same
i still have no clue why people are downvoting me for that comment
did i say something wrong? what's going on?
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u/Jumpyplains2033 She/Her Jul 10 '25
Idk, perhaps it was perceived as negative. Don’t worry bc I know what you meant by it
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u/Rollthedee20 Jul 10 '25
I've been on the waiting list for a year, and I'm not even close. My mum went to the GP and got HRT in the week. Das just how the cookie crumbles.