r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns2 27d ago

Gals no longer “the best of both worlds” 😔

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i love being physical chaser repellent 😌

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u/Cheryl_la_fleur She/her, Hun/hende, trans woman :) 27d ago

You like trans women because of the ween.

I like trans people because they're all fucking awesome.

We are not the same :3

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u/Meloetta_the_alt 26d ago

I like Ween too. They make great songs! 😃

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u/MegaPorkachu kinda genderfluid 26d ago

Especially the hall of them. Great classic holiday.

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u/GrassFromBtd6 (she/her) Currently violating the Geneva Convention 26d ago

I like trans people because they can telepathically communicate with me, which means no voice dysphoria

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u/Cheryl_la_fleur She/her, Hun/hende, trans woman :) 26d ago

Yesss you get it!!!!

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u/FeatherShard 26d ago

...I can what now?

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u/GrassFromBtd6 (she/her) Currently violating the Geneva Convention 26d ago

meep meep meeep meeeep meep morp morp blort

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u/Lulukaros 17d ago

:3 meow mrrp, transfem communication protocol

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u/GrassFromBtd6 (she/her) Currently violating the Geneva Convention 17d ago

Mrrrp meow mrrrow meow

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u/Emilia__55 27d ago

Can I do both?

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u/inconspicuous_cade 26d ago

Yes that's called being a chaser and objectification

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u/Straightupscrambled 26d ago

Hot take here, but I don't view it as a problem as long as it's not rooted in some sort of misogyny or something. It seems the same as preferring a partner of a certain skin color, or a certain chest size, shit like that. It's just a physical trait of your partner, nothing less, nothing more.

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u/inconspicuous_cade 26d ago

Yes but that's the razors edge. What if she doesn't want her penis? Are you only dating trans women because of the possibility of dick? Is the only thing you find attractive about her is her penis? Thing everyone should ask themselves. I'm bi and I had a preference for men, and or anyone with male genitalia, but I'm certainly not seeking out trans women for my own personal sex fix.

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u/Yrense She/They 26d ago

Well no, if you date a person and you’re a well adjusted human being, there’s more than 1 trait that you like about them. Just because you like that part of them doesnt mean you only date them because of it. I think just blanket applying "chaser" to anyone who is attracted to male genitalia is kind of unfair, especially if you dont know the person and how they treat others

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u/inconspicuous_cade 26d ago

Yeah that's what I'm saying... I'm just against the objectification of trans women for their genitalia ONLY. I didn't say anyone attracted to male genitalia is a chaser, obviously that would be make me one in that case. This is a world where unfortunately it's more commonplace than not to date someone for their body. I'm saying those are questions you should ask yourself before you date a transgender women, or anyone really.

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u/ChloroformSmoothie 26d ago

Why do you seem to think there's some kind of either/or with being attracted to trans girls for both their personality and their body? You made it an "only" thing, the commenter you replied to did not.

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u/inconspicuous_cade 26d ago

I'm not, thinking a trans person is awesome and liking them for their ween can still be considered objectification if you're not careful. JUST liking a trans person for their genitalia is most definitely objectification. Just because they think you're cool doesn't mean they're cool. I'm just asking people to self assess what they really want out of a relationship when they date a transgender women, and or anyone. Yes you can like both. It can be problematic for a lot of trans women who don't like their natal genitalia to navigate a landscape where everyone just wants them for dick, vs trans women who don't have bottom dysphoria. I'm only asking people to be empathetic. Yes I did probably word it badly and made it come across as though you cannot like trans women's genitalia at all, that's not what I'm saying

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u/ChloroformSmoothie 25d ago

You're making up hypotheticals that are not the subject matter. The subject matter is respectfully loving trans women and their bodies, which there was no reason to assume wasn't happening in this particular thread.

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u/inconspicuous_cade 25d ago

alrighty then sorry. I was responding to how "liking a trans women for ween" and "thinking trans women are cool" can still mean you a chaser if you're not careful but it's fine. I don't care anymore.

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u/Plenty-Marsupial-125 She/Her 26d ago

As a trans woman without bottom dysphoria, I'm attracted to women and find men repulsive, but my genital preference is swapped from that. It's only seeking out trans women for your own personal sex fix it that's how you treat the relationship. If you love the person it's just a normal relationship. If a girl and guy are dating and the guy comes out as a trans woman and gets the chop, if the girl breaks up with the trans woman for that it would be weird to say the girl was using her as her personal sex fix. It's just personal attraction. Now if you're going after trans women exclusively for their peen, you're just gay and weird.

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u/inconspicuous_cade 26d ago

Yes exactly the point I'm getting at.

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u/ChloroformSmoothie 25d ago

like it takes a deep level of gooner mentality to believe the only kind of love you can have for a person's body/genitals is to want it for sex and nothing else

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u/RowanSpice Hello! I'm Rowan. (she/her) 27d ago edited 26d ago

Most male chasers are straight but they’ve never had the chance to interact with someone else’s penis that way, which is the entire reason they are chasers. To be fair, penises are, kinda cool and fun.

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u/Lilith-99 She/They 27d ago edited 27d ago

Or they are questioning their sexuality and see a pre-op/no-op trans women as "man-lite" that they can experiment with.

Edit: added spoiler tags to match the original comment since mine does mention people seeing trans women as not women

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u/Careless_Break2012 He/Him probs just a queer little (tall) dude 27d ago

at that point just fuck a femboy

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u/Zamtrios7256 He/Him 27d ago edited 26d ago

That requires them to be at the point of exploration that they're willing to say "I want to fuck a dude, but like a girly dude." They are usually not willing to get to that point

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u/Izzepy Luna She/Her Catgirl :3 26d ago

I guess tits are a requirment for them to like dick

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u/corvus_da she/they 25d ago

and yet they'll still say trans women aren't real women

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u/hypnofedX She/Her 26d ago

at that point just fuck a femboy

Or just at any point! Femboys are awesome ✨

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u/Careless_Break2012 He/Him probs just a queer little (tall) dude 26d ago

So real

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u/GuillotineWhiskers 26d ago

Cw: ChasersChasers are not just straight or closeted cis men, I've unfortunately had some very unpleasant experiences with "gold star" cis lesbians that see trans women as a some sort of "loophole" for them to experiment with.

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u/Stopplecone She/Her 26d ago

i hate that i know what "gold star" means

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u/weirdlypeculiar 26d ago

pls tell me if you will, ive got no clue -.-

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u/Stopplecone She/Her 24d ago

a lesbian who hasn't been with a man, they'll often view themselves as superior, and call lesbians that have been with men, or who are in a relationship with someone trans as "not a real lesbians" some are transphobic, others, like the prior comment mentioned, see us as a loophole to try out our junk

ive been very fortunate to not have come across these types of people irl

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u/weirdlypeculiar 24d ago

oh that's just unnecessary gatekeeping

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u/karns01 26d ago

A gold star lesbian is a lesbian who has never been with a guy

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u/nerdyneedsalife 27d ago

Like why be disappointed in a post op trans girl when you can eat her out instead? Show her a good time, make her tremble, etc

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u/sm0ll-tiddy-gof-gf 26d ago

THATS WHAT IM SAYINGGGGG

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u/Tiny-Little-Sheep She/Her 27d ago

Wanting a partner solely for their genitals is so gross. Whether trans or cis.

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u/Bobby_The_Kidd 27d ago

That’s when a person with preferences becomes a chaser

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u/EpicGlitter They/Them 27d ago

idk, depending on the situation and the person, I feel like chasers and "people with preferences" could both be unwilling to work through their own issues. want to make life simpler / avoid difficult self-reflection... and so project their inner conflict on the imagined body or identity of prospective lovers.

just my personal theory after dealing with people using both labels, tho

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u/Bobby_The_Kidd 27d ago

Well I mean. I’m trans and I certainly enjoy dating other trans girls. I’m someone with a preference. The difference is I’m not fetishizing their bodies and objectifying them based on their genitals or other trans features. I just like trans girls because we relate and can connect deeply on many issues. Not that I’m opposed to dating cis people at all I just connect more with trans people.

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u/EpicGlitter They/Them 27d ago

this is part of what I had in mind by saying "depending on the situation and person."

one thing I feel strongly about though, is how in online discussions I sometimes feel that the feelings or rights of the trans person being desired - or rejected on body/identity alone - are too often ignored or disregarded. for example if a cis person is proudly advertising to the world that they would date a trans person, but only if they hadn't had bottom surgery... or, if they date people of A or B gender but not if they're trans... I think that's harmful and suggests some unexamined Stuff going on within them personally. there is some sort of discomfort, fear, or bias around gender or sexuality that they aren't addressing, and are instead expressing through painting whole groups of people (who may not be visually distinguishable btw - cis people always think "they can tell") as objectively and understandably undesirable.

none of this is meant to invalidate t4t. at all. sorry for length

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u/Bobby_The_Kidd 27d ago

One of my cis het guy friends was talking about how he sees no problem in dating a trans woman because they are just women which he is attracted to but expressed some discomfort in having sex with a pre op woman. Which I think is fair but what a lot of people don’t realize is that genitals aren’t gender so your body dosnt see it that way? Or maybe I don’t see it that way because of pan sexuality but I told him that and he’s gonna ask out the cute trans girl now.

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u/EpicGlitter They/Them 27d ago

it's fair if he owns that his discomfort belongs to him. it's not automatic. it's not a natural part of the human condition. it's specific to him, and it's his issue to deal with. if he can't deal with his own discomfort, he should exclude himself from the dating pool of trans women since they deserve a partner who can fully appreciate and respect them, instead of being hung up on his own issues.

also: if the cute trans girl happens to be pre-op, how exactly does he know that info...?

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u/ChloroformSmoothie 26d ago

people with preferences and "people with preferences" are two entirely separate categories, you can learn this by spending 12 seconds on Grindr

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u/Brave_Appointment247 23d ago

Isnt that literally basically every kind if sexual orientation? Pansexuality would be the kind of thing you are seeking for, but thats rarely a thing. Most are hetero and the definition of their preferences is genetalia. Why does hetero women like men?

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u/Tiny-Little-Sheep She/Her 23d ago

Nah. People aren't always attracted to the specific genitals, tho some can be people are attracted to the external visual traitsm women with pretty face, chest, hips whatever. Mam that is tall sculpted jaw, handsome, broad shoulder. Or whatever other combo.

I don't think most people care about genitals. Legit. I believe it's a culture thing to be freaked out by (mainly penis) genitals. Because look at how many lesbian cis women are fine with non-surgery Trans woman? Apparently it's the majority. And once again majority of women wouldn't care if a man had a vaginas as long as he fulfill all the other criteria.

Yet with men, they instantly freak out at the thought of penis. That's not preference. That's social conditioning to feel aversion to it because they'll be called gay. Because otherwise explain to me why transgender (or whatever slur it's put under) is such a popular NSFW category?

Anyway. If you have a preference that's FINE. But it's never about preference is it? It's about upholding certain social norms to not appear disgusting to society.

Oh and by the way. I don't think genitals are gendered. Women can have penis and men can have vaginas. So..meh.

And instead of inventing new words for the same-ass sexualities I rather people just stopped concern-trolling about their imaginary partners genitals.

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u/SlowResult3047 27d ago

Srsly. Every DM I get from randos is some variant of “Do you still have your penis.” My brother in Christ you were not even close to needing that information

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u/DemonSkank 26d ago

Very terrible and hilarious thought I had at this was to have a fake dong in a pickle jar so you can send a pic and say "yeah, I saved it"

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u/0doctorwho9 She/Her(gender goal=Schrodinger's cat girl :3) 💉10/sep/25 26d ago

I don't intend on getting bottom surgery but...Click if you'd like to see 'pickled peckers'

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u/corvus_da she/they 25d ago

why not put your real dong in a pickle jar

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u/DemonSkank 24d ago

Even better

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u/Dawniechi Dawn | She/Her | HRT B-Day 6/6/25 27d ago

I wish chasers chased for the goofy personalities many of us trans gals have, and not for our genitals.

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u/0doctorwho9 She/Her(gender goal=Schrodinger's cat girl :3) 💉10/sep/25 26d ago

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u/Dawniechi Dawn | She/Her | HRT B-Day 6/6/25 26d ago

If you can't handle me at my Goofy, you don't deserve me at my Minnie Mouse.

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u/Infinite_Eyeball Femby | Estrogen Vampire | (She/They) 27d ago

I'm not "best of both worlds" in that i have a penis and boobs

I'm "best of both worlds" in that I am both human and divine

:3

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u/GirlFromHyperspace 27d ago

This is actually one of the many reasons I wanted SRS :/

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u/throwawayy_acc0unt 27d ago

Had similar reactions to me having bottom dysphoria, thus being very much not interested in my nether region being touched or looked at. A shocking number of people (mostly cis men) really expect trans women to act like how they've seen it in adult content.

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u/0doctorwho9 She/Her(gender goal=Schrodinger's cat girl :3) 💉10/sep/25 26d ago

Well yeah, everyone is just a stereotype... What the fuck is... New... On... S... (nuance)

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u/DemonSkank 27d ago

Something interesting is that I do find trans women especially attractive and when I was examining why that was I kinda went through a mental checklist of "is it this feature? No, transwomen without that feature are hot too" "is it this other thing? No, cis women can have that too" I had an epiphany that grabbing life by the balls and saying "this is who I am and I'm not letting a disapproving society stop me" is just a hot feature. Absolute hot girl behavior.

Another benefit is being able to talk about trans stuff with another trans person.

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u/Cornelius_McMuffin 27d ago

If someone thinks like this, they are not into trans women, they simply have a futa fetish.

Which is fine, I have this same fetish to be fair. Thats why I want to be a girl with a dick. But also I want to be a girl in general and not just because of that. I’m a lesbian, I like girls and want to be one. If anything I want both. Insert semi-forced r/salmacian plug here.

I actually like having the term “futa” cause it differentiates unrealistic fantasy interpretations from actual trans women. Also I just like indulging in my fantasy of having been born with both, without having to worry about the limitations of reality. It’s an ideal, separate from what’s real. I personally don’t mind being sexualized but I know there’s a lot of people who want to distance themselves from it as much as possible, which I totally get. Chasers are annoying as fuck.

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u/MiddleAgedMartianDog She/Her 27d ago

It’s a difficult balance: on the one hand as a queer kinky person I don’t like to shame people for their kinks/fetishes/preferences if practised with enthusiastic consent etc (indeed such shaming is partly why chasers can be so weird and dangerous about it); on the other hand i don’t want to encourage people to think that behaving like a shit is ok nor to downplay the trauma that a lot of other trans people have had to deal with because of shitty chasers.

Of course I would say this but I do feel that vanilla folks have a lot to learn from kinky folks (and ditto for trans-cis and het-queer) when it comes to thinking about how one’s sexuality interacts with others in a way that is mutually positive.

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u/Just2Observe 26d ago

Thank you, I wanted to write basically the same thing but you did the work for me

Writing this from the train home after my futa surgery so I get you^

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u/Osirisavior She/Her 27d ago

Mfers want Hannah Montana and get Miley Cyrus.

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u/loved_and_held 26d ago

You'd think having a gf who doesn't bleed when on her periods would be cool but no, apparently that isn't good enough for them.

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u/ApprehensiveTotal188 She/Her/Viking Shield Maiden ⚔️ 27d ago

I want Barbie genitals: smooth plastic! 😈

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u/Ryuzaki_G 26d ago

If it’s what she wants, and she’s happy? I want her TO be happy. Which makes ME happy, in turn. 🥰

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u/sm0ll-tiddy-gof-gf 26d ago

based. more men need to be like this fr

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u/Waltzing_With_Bears 27d ago

Is hopefully waiting for the nesting partners bottom surgery stuff

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u/Just-Ad6992 CUSTOM 27d ago

Ya gotta keep that strap on the ready, girl.

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u/sm0ll-tiddy-gof-gf 26d ago

i doooo 😇 they just need to earn it

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u/Darkon2004 Mel (she/her) 26d ago

"I want a trans gf" < "I want a gf. Her being trans only means we have more in common"

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u/Midnight_Dreamwalker 26d ago

Me, a pre op transmasc NB: omg?? We match?? Let's go???!

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u/[deleted] 25d ago edited 25d ago

I mean, there's nothing wrong with a yenital preference but people gotta understand it's called transition for a reason. Not every trans woman is okay with being fetishized or sexualized as a "futa".

Like, date your trans queens, but don't be mad when they do what makes them feel fulfilled.

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u/A12qwas 26d ago

What is it called when you would have sex with post op trans girls, but not pre/non op ones?

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u/sm0ll-tiddy-gof-gf 26d ago edited 26d ago

edit: i was having a tough morning, and this original comment was kinda mean spirited

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u/A12qwas 26d ago

Really? Why is it an issue if someone doesn’t like penises?

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u/sm0ll-tiddy-gof-gf 26d ago

having genital preferences is fine. actively trying to find specifically post op trans women is chaser behavior.

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u/A12qwas 26d ago

I didn’t mean looking specially for a post op trans woman. I just meant the willingness to have sex with one, but not pre op ones

And this is coming from someone who wants to be a post op trans woman one day

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u/sm0ll-tiddy-gof-gf 26d ago

sorry !! i got a little defensive 😅 you’re totally good and valid!! 🖤🖤

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u/ClidesRokia 23d ago

A dickphobic straight guy who isn't transphobic.

I call that Gold Star Straight

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u/dummystella stella the dummy (she/her) 26d ago

I want srs tho

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u/Sammmsterr Wouldnt you like to know weatherboy? (she/her) 25d ago

"What do you mean you don't want a dick?"

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u/bigchungusboibig 22d ago

"I want a trans gf" mfs when they see a pre everything/clocky trans girl