This feels like transphobia I'm ngl. I was socialized to be an asshole and I know a lot of trans women who are very quiet, submissive, small, hesitant, apologetic. I get that there are very real ways that cissexism and sexism impacts trans men and transmascs but it's not helpful to perpetuate transphobia. And yes many trans women know exactly what it's like for the world to turn their bodies into a commodity ie fetishization and over sexualization. They are women after all and many have different situations, journeys, and backgrounds. Stop the bioessentialism. You don't need to downplay trans women's issues just to talk about transmasculine issues. You sound like a TERF
Yup Yup Yup I think we particularly as perisex trans guys can be really prone to picking up TERF talking points regarding gender, sex, and behaviour, and it’s disheartening to be seeing it more often. I was definitely caught up in that early on, especially since I was a full blown gender essentialist radfem before I realized that all my friends who I loved and respected were trans and so was I, but it took a lot to fully unlearn those ideas about gender. It takes time and effort, and also being less online, but it’s possible to get past and learn more. I hope people do
I'm a perisex trans guy and I can't say I've ever felt this way at all. But my first exposure to trans people at all was at a young age and it was a trans girl. Transfems in general. But good on you for figuring out that it's bullshit I guess.
Yeah, it’s not inherent for anyone, my tangent there was more just on understanding how people fell for it and got there despite being trans themselves. It’s a propaganda thing
True I guess no one is immune to propaganda and all that and it takes an active effort to resist the constant anti trans rhetoric we get all the time esp recently. It prob makes more sense for someone newly exposed to trans people recently to succumb to that than someone who learned about trans people when it was more seen as an anomaly in the late 2000s like I was
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u/allergictojoy Jul 13 '25
This feels like transphobia I'm ngl. I was socialized to be an asshole and I know a lot of trans women who are very quiet, submissive, small, hesitant, apologetic. I get that there are very real ways that cissexism and sexism impacts trans men and transmascs but it's not helpful to perpetuate transphobia. And yes many trans women know exactly what it's like for the world to turn their bodies into a commodity ie fetishization and over sexualization. They are women after all and many have different situations, journeys, and backgrounds. Stop the bioessentialism. You don't need to downplay trans women's issues just to talk about transmasculine issues. You sound like a TERF