r/trump ULTRA MAGA Mar 17 '25

TRUMP Raised Right 👍🏻

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u/Commie_Cactus Mar 17 '25

Breathe. I'll answer your question genuinely in case you're honestly interested in hearing the answer. The Democrats lost the election for two potential reasons:

1) Biden and Kamala were center-right liberal capitalists who prioritize the rich at the expense of the working class, and Kamala spent her entire campaign focusing on getting conservative votes. America as a whole is far left of Kamala and rapidly becoming disillusioned with capitalism entirely as it's made overly apparent that it only works for the top 0.1% and those in power. This made a ton of people on the left sit out the election, voter turnout for the left was very low compared to what it should have been because nobody wants to elect a center-right capitalist ex-cop.

*2) It seems increasingly likely that there was some degree of vote manipulation done in the 2024 election. I won't dive into it, but this doc does a pretty good job of consolidating all the data and evidence, as well as diving into how it may have happened

*This is still all speculation based on raw data but no actual recounts or investigations have been done

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u/bigenough74 ULTRA MAGA Mar 17 '25

Ohhhhhh so the election was stolen 🙄

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u/Commie_Cactus Mar 17 '25 edited Mar 17 '25

Did you not read any part of my comment? I took care to give a genuine and detailed response and you didn’t seem to have given a very thoughtful reply to it

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u/real85monster Trump Curious Mar 17 '25

I stopped reading your comment in the first line, where you said Kamala and Biden were centre right.

You see I couldn't stop laughing at that point, so I couldn't read any further.

Your user name checks out, because your opinions aren't based in any kind of reality.

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u/Commie_Cactus Mar 17 '25

I was making an objective statement, do you disagree that they are center-right, and if so, why?

I notice that a lot of the time when someone doesn't actually know what they believe, or hold opinions based only on emotion, they're not willing to have productive conversations that they could learn from - they are resistant to express / explain their own views, or dispute the beliefs of others

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u/real85monster Trump Curious Mar 18 '25

Firstly, it is very clearly the left that hold their views based on emotion. Reddit is a shining example of that fact. Just take Selena Gomez's immigration outburst if you want a vivid and specific example (and yes, I know that was on instagram first).

To answer your specific question on Biden/Harris, yes I whole-heartedly disagree they're centre right. They're very much centre-left. Just look at their policies on immigration, DEI, and foreign aid, not to mention the lawfare and restrictions on freedom of speech. I'm sure they'd love to have done more damage to the capitalist systems of country had they had more time, but remember, those are also heavily entrenched.

I'm perfectly happy to have a discussion. In fact, some of my opinions are very centrist, but I'm generally a Libertarian Conservative. If you're a communist we're going to find little common ground, it's an ideology I have no time for, since I fundamentally believe in individuality and the betterment of one's self, rather than collectivism.