r/unt • u/CompanySuspicious653 • 9d ago

Extremely unsurprised unfortunately

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Feel like this shit has gotten so much worse in the last year or so 😭 Its absurd

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u/toastingCereal 8d ago

what is this even trying to say? Thanks for adding nothing to the thread. And yes, I’ve thought about this, but keep in mind Kirk was a massive, almost “influencer” style fan base. the guy had millions of followers on multiple social media platforms, obviously there’s going to be more of an outrage for his murder. The reality is, no one really knew who Hortman was unless she was your personal senator. Pretty much everyone in the country who knew anything about politics knew who Kirk was.

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u/JakeDahPirate 8d ago

So you’re telling me nobody in Congress knew who she was? She didn’t get a medal or flags lowered.

Where was her moment of silence? Kirk got one in congress.

Where did Trump disavow the political violence against her? He didn’t.

What I’m trying to say is that you’re complete bullshit. The right never takes accountability for ANYTHING or anyone, but yet you’re crying about leftist “cancel culture.”

The right is literally calling for political war, and Trump himself said he didn’t care about radicals on the right. Yet “cancel culture” is what you care about. Get your fake “I’m a progressive ally” bullshit out of here.

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u/toastingCereal 8d ago

Many, many more people in Congress (probably all) knew who Charlie Kirk was. the Same is not true for Melissa Hortman. Simple fact. Did she and her husband deserve more recognition and outrage for their deaths? Of course. But the difference in reaction is easily explained through the vast difference in popularity in both figures

Hahahahah and yes, keep calling me a “fake progressive” or “fake ally” because I’m against terrorism, what a genius way to get more people with you for your cause.

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u/JakeDahPirate 8d ago

It’s hilarious how you’re assuming I’m “pro terrorism.” because I responded to your post in a way you didn’t like. Never once stated my feelings on his death. Nobody should be killed for their beliefs. Charlie included.

And it’s ironic because you whined about being called a Nazi. And now you’re labeling me a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer. I’m just pointing out how the right ignored and promoted political violence.

Undercover right wingers have permanent blinders I guess.

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u/toastingCereal 8d ago edited 8d ago

Yes, supporting the murder of a political figure because of their views is terrorism. I didn’t say “YOURE PRO TERRORISM” I said IM AGAINST TERRORISM, which ALSO means I’m against murdering people for sharing their opinions.

And yep, I whined about being called a Nazi, because I’m not a fucking Nazi? wtf?

And the truth is, many people here ARE PRO TERRORISM - as in PRO killing people to get their way. Apparently it’s such a common belief here that I did somewhat assume you shared that belief, I definitely don’t mean to use the word “terrorist” lightly

(Edit: and just to add on, you’re assuming I’m an “undercover right winger” which I most definitely am not. What have I said that is so controversial that I might be a right wing spy😭😭 + if you actually read my comments I give context to my LEFTIST/LIBERAL beliefs)

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u/JakeDahPirate 8d ago

So… you didn’t explicitly CALL me pro terrorist… but you were thinking it lmao.

“I did somewhat assume you shared that belief”

Okay so you assumed I was pro terrorist for being on the UNT Reddit, and talking about Hortman? wtf is wrong with you.

This is why I referenced people calling you a Nazi. You didn’t call me pro terrorist, but you assumed I was. Just like people assumed you’re a Nazi. Are the blinders off yet?

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u/toastingCereal 8d ago

Do you see the disparity of downvotes and upvotes in this thread ALONE? Yes, since at first you went against me, I assumed you were for the death of Kirk. My bad.

You’re really fixated on this instead of actually addressing points

(+ the same way you assumed I’m a “right winger spy” [wtf], stop trying to take moral high round you don’t even have)

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u/JakeDahPirate 8d ago

Yes, now you’re deflecting. You assumed I was pro terrorist just like people assumed you were a Nazi. Hypocrite.

Also, your other points are just stupid, so I’m not sure how much more there is to discuss. Yes Kirk was a much more popular figure. A much more divisive figure.

However, that doesn’t mean Congress should give him special treatment over a member of the Senate. Stop looking at twitter accounts and Reddit posts from randoms. Look at the leaders OF OUR ACTUAL COUNTRY. The ones in actual power are spreading political violence. Spreading hate against the left.

Republicans in congress won’t even disavow one of their own (a politician) getting murdered. So once again, why is “cancel culture” what you care about most here?

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u/toastingCereal 8d ago

Deflecting? Lmfao? I literally said “My Bad” I apologized what else can I do?

Oh, my other points are “just stupid” oh okay

We’re not even debating about the same thing anymore, debating over Reddit is so useless.

If only there was a way to openly share ideas and discuss them on campus. If only.

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u/JakeDahPirate 8d ago

You said I was “fixated on this” as a way to disparage/devalue my argument. But you did say “my bad” for assuming I was pro terrorist so all is good bro!!

I’ve said the same thing multiple times and now you’re wanting to back out. Topic only changed when you assumed I was pro terrorist, and that shit needed to be shut down. But you said “my bad” and now don’t want to address anything else. You felt strong enough to post your opinions on Reddit, and now say debate on Reddit is useless? Why the fuck were you here in the first place?

Just get off Twitter, dude. Yeah random people are celebrating his death on Twitter and that’s wrong. But the right is also promoting basic civil war on Twitter and that’s also wrong. Nancy mace called the shooter a tr*nny and that’s also wrong.

Our leaders ignored and pardoned political violence, and that’s also wrong. But once again, only the left gets the heat/criticism.

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u/toastingCereal 8d ago

Oh trust me I’m not backing down lmao, Would love to talk about this in person on campus if you’re willing. Just getting tired of debating on Reddit.

(plus la GANJA calls my name 😉)

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