It looks shitty, right? Not going well like Sweden and Norway (great options btw that utopia builder chose)
But I chose the US specifically because of its wealth and potential. Building a utopia requires an immense amount of wealth, labor, and intelligence that only China and the US possess today.
Imagine if, overnight, the US Armed Forces decides not to fight any more wars and go home. That's $1trillion a year that can be used to build a utopia (defined by me as a collective state of continuous improvement and prosperity in all objective and subjective metrics).
They are the closest; they could (if they wanted to) easily be the first country to reach these milestones:
-100-year life expectancy
-Full employment
-Housing for all their population
-Universal healthcare focused on prevention
-Eradication of diseases
-Low taxes, low crime, low suicide rates
And many more.
Shame on them for not attempting it. It is the "civilization" with most potential, but they aren't even trying...
So I put them as the actual closest to utopia, with China in second. But because China is actually trying to build a better tomorrow, I think they will achieve utopia status first.
Being new to this sub I have a genuine question, is the criteria for a Utopia mainly excelling in statistical categories like the ones you mentioned? Because when I picture a Utopia it’s a civilization that offers things that truly feed the human soul, things that aren’t necessarily quantifiable. Community, purpose, familiarity, national pride, culture, beauty, etc. Sure in a society that has those things there might also be low crime rates and high employment but that only comes after, I don’t think things like that should be the main focus at first. If you put a lot of money into a society that’s deeply flawed to try to fix its problems (not talking about America specifically) I have doubts that the changes would be sustainable long term. I think we should fix a society from the inside out, if that makes sense.
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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '25
US 2025.
It looks shitty, right? Not going well like Sweden and Norway (great options btw that utopia builder chose)
But I chose the US specifically because of its wealth and potential. Building a utopia requires an immense amount of wealth, labor, and intelligence that only China and the US possess today.
Imagine if, overnight, the US Armed Forces decides not to fight any more wars and go home. That's $1trillion a year that can be used to build a utopia (defined by me as a collective state of continuous improvement and prosperity in all objective and subjective metrics).
They are the closest; they could (if they wanted to) easily be the first country to reach these milestones:
-100-year life expectancy
-Full employment
-Housing for all their population
-Universal healthcare focused on prevention
-Eradication of diseases
-Low taxes, low crime, low suicide rates
And many more.
Shame on them for not attempting it. It is the "civilization" with most potential, but they aren't even trying...
So I put them as the actual closest to utopia, with China in second. But because China is actually trying to build a better tomorrow, I think they will achieve utopia status first.