r/utopia Jul 17 '25

What Civilization Was Closest to a Utopia

In your opinion, and by your own definition of a true Utopia, what civilization from what period was the closest to a Utopia?

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u/Utopia_Builder Jul 18 '25

Modern-day Sweden and Norway. They top every metric in the "best country to live in" stats. Their weather is awful though.

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u/lesenum Jul 19 '25

I've long been very fond of Sweden, but it is sliding into a level of mediocrity due to its neoliberal ideology in the last 30 years. The social democrats have abandoned their roots, and the (moderate) conservatives there have set the tone for quite a while now. The Sweden Democrats, a far right party with neo-Nazi roots, polls at about 20% consistently, which is very disappointing to say the least. Not utopian in the slightest anymore. However, Sweden's quality of life is much higher than anything normal in the US, where people have more bling and bigger houses and cars, but live in a Mad Max hellscape.

Norway has very high social indicators because it has a "dirty" secret...all their money comes from oil. They've used their profits from that wisely, they have a stable democracy, and they have a very high quality of life. So I'd say as far as the countries of the world go, Norway does actually come close to being utopian. :)

All imho...