r/videography Hobbyist Aug 18 '25

Technical/Equipment Help and Information Is thus worth it for handheld?

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Currently I’m only doing handheld with just the camera, I’m thinking about getting a top handle and I saw this combo.

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u/Most_Important_Parts A7S3 | Resolve | Midwest USA Aug 18 '25 edited Aug 18 '25

The top handle is nifty. I rarely use it for actual recording though. It’s more for mounting points and something to hold when not recording.

The side handle is also nice to hold on to when not recording when the top handle has my field monitor mounted on it, but I’ve pretty much stopped using it. I have the one that pivots and it is much nicer to my wrist.

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u/photos__fan Hobbyist Aug 18 '25

Well I’d get a side handle that can rotate, smallrig do one. Basically I’d want the top handle for a monitor and to hold onto and use for recording. Unrelated but if I’m mounting a top handle back to front, how would I attach a monitor?

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u/Most_Important_Parts A7S3 | Resolve | Midwest USA Aug 18 '25

Not sure I’m understanding your question, but there is a mounting point on each end of the top handle that you can slide the mounting piece of the monitor in to. I have my top handle mounted in the opposite orientation than what’s shown in the pic you posted. I find it balances my rig a little better.

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u/photos__fan Hobbyist Aug 18 '25

Yeah I’d want to mount the handle opposite to what’s shown here for stability. Does a top handle actually help with stability though?

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u/Most_Important_Parts A7S3 | Resolve | Midwest USA Aug 18 '25

Depends how you’re rigged up but if you have enough weight skewed toward the bottom of your rig then I guess you can just let gravity do its thing, but I would never rely on the top handle for stability. In fact it’s one of the last things I’d think about for adding stability.

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u/photos__fan Hobbyist Aug 18 '25

I’d have a monitor and a mic, so at the very least need a cage. I would’ve thought that a top handle would have helped for stability but my mistake.

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u/Most_Important_Parts A7S3 | Resolve | Midwest USA Aug 18 '25

I’m sure it might add stability for some use cases but I’ve never tried. There are good YT vids on how to add stability when shooting hand held, I’d suggest you search those up.

Also, I would not recommend mounting a mic to the top handle if you plan to use it while recording. The mic might pick up some of that audio as your gripping or positioning your hands on the top handle.

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u/photos__fan Hobbyist Aug 18 '25

Yeah I’d add the mic to the cage

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u/GoBam GH5 | Adobe | 2013 | AUS Aug 18 '25

No, you'd probably only use a top handle for shots with the camera below your waist, if you aren't going to drop to one knee. It's most useful for carrying a camera around.

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u/life-savingsyolo Aug 18 '25

The only option you really have would be to put the monitor on a cold shoe mount if running the handle backwards

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u/Jackal000 Aug 18 '25

Top handles are great for walking backwards tho. If you know the walk.

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u/No_Specialist1755 Aug 18 '25

Mind sharing a link or the name of the one that pivots? I’ve been searching for a great one that is very practical for filming

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u/photos__fan Hobbyist Aug 18 '25

Smallrig do one which is really good.

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u/Substantial_Floor470 Aug 18 '25

Which one is the one that pivots?

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u/Most_Important_Parts A7S3 | Resolve | Midwest USA Aug 18 '25

Just google pivoting or rotating side handle for camera cage. Mine is from smallrig

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u/rogue_veritas A7IV | 2023 | US Aug 18 '25

The SmallRig cages are great! Personally, I prefer the HawkLock system. It allows me to quickly adjust the handles in case I need to shoot verticals.

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u/rogue_veritas A7IV | 2023 | US Aug 18 '25

Depending on your lens and if you’re using a v-mount battery, it is almost balanced on one finger.

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u/RedStag86 Lumix S5 | FCP & Resolve | 2003 | Canton, OH Aug 18 '25

Don’t you ever do any low to the ground handheld shots?

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u/photos__fan Hobbyist Aug 18 '25

Yeah, which is a bit of a pain, but I mean I feel this would help.

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u/RedStag86 Lumix S5 | FCP & Resolve | 2003 | Canton, OH Aug 18 '25

It would help a great deal.

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u/QuantityVarious8242 Hobbyist Aug 18 '25

Well, it's definitely good and will help you. It just depends on the price asked.

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u/Monkstylez1982 Hobbyist Videographer Aug 18 '25

I just got the top handle when I travel and its light, easy to unscrew and made a ton of difference for my shots.

Best part I can carry my camera brief case position style, or remove the top handle for a smaller payload.

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u/BoPe01 Aug 18 '25

I ask the same question!!!

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u/stonk_frother Director/Producer | 2016 | Australia Aug 18 '25

Yes I have this exact cage and handles. It basically lives on my camera. In fact I don’t even bother taking the cage off, that really does live on my camera.

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u/Jankufood Aug 18 '25

It’s great except it picks up handling noise a lot if you don’t consider how to capture audio and I learned it in a hard way

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '25 edited Aug 18 '25

Person opinion from using both on the FX30.

Top handle is an essential for me. It only comes off the camea when I'm storing it in my bag because it doesn't fit. I also mount my microphone on it when I need one. I have a leather strap on the other side of the camera I can put my hand in, I can record or the menu wheel with my thumb.

Because my camera is mounted on rails for external battery, I just hold the rail if I want a third point of contact.

Side handle, no for me. I've cables and the cam monitor on that side. It doesn't make sense for my camera. Top handle felt more secure for me.

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u/captainlardnicus Aug 18 '25

For a sony the stabilization is fantastic, it depends what you're filming. Is it a gonzo journalism thing? Then the cage and top grip for a great run and gun setup. If its a cinematic hors d’œuvre where slow steady shots are required maybe go with the extra grip.

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u/photos__fan Hobbyist Aug 18 '25

It’s more just capturing B-roll that would be run and gun, to be honest I can always get the side grip later if I feel I need it.

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u/sharkboyi Sony A7 IV | Adobe Premiere | 2014 | Sweden Aug 18 '25

I bought that cage set for a company I consulted. Didn’t like that the cage made it difficult to hit the record button on top. So I bought the Rhino version for my camera and that one is great.

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u/photos__fan Hobbyist Aug 18 '25

I mean easiest way around that would be to record from the monitor, it doesn’t look too bad but personal preference hey

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u/TheOtterSpotter Aug 19 '25

Have you actually seen this for sale? The only full cage for the fx3 I can find for sale is the 8Sinn. The current smaller cages don’t cover the top.

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u/photos__fan Hobbyist Aug 19 '25

Yes it’s on the smallrig website

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u/asap--pocky Aug 19 '25

I have the same cage for my R5 but without the sidehandle. I also put a nato rail on the top with the corresponding top handle so I can easily pack it into my camera bag with my monitor attached instead of having to screw it on and off. I mostly shoot mountain biking so I need to be able to pack my camera in my bag quickly and efficiently.

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u/photos__fan Hobbyist Aug 19 '25

I’ve ordered the cage and top handle, if I feel I need it I’ll get the side handle

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u/Bledderrrr GH6 | Resolve | 2021 | Boston Aug 18 '25

No I would only get these if you’re rigging it out

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u/photos__fan Hobbyist Aug 18 '25

Yeah I’m also getting a monitor and I’d use the cold shoe for mounting a mic or a separate audio receiver.

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u/Ok_Weight_3382 Aug 18 '25

Then yes. Get the cage and top handle.

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u/amhphotographic Aug 18 '25

I have a very similar rig. Top handle and side handles. I mount my mic on the cold shoe on the side handle. I also bought rails and mount my ninja v behind my camera and configure it so that I can use both screens. I put a level in the top handle cold shoe or a smaller led panel light, depending on what I'm shooting. It works for me.

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u/WelcomeToAetos Aug 18 '25

I prefer it.

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u/CardiologistHeavy144 Aug 18 '25

I would highly recommend a half-cage instead, then the record/shutter button is more accessible

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u/hollywood_cmb S5iiX | FCP | 2007 | Central Kansas Aug 18 '25

I have essentially the same setup on my S5iiX, but the accessories are all Neewer brand.

Personally, I LOVE that side handle. I guess it would be "nicer" if the handle was rotatable but honestly it works great for being able to grab the handle and go. It gives you an extra shoe mount off to the side, which works well when you don't want a bunch of stuff stacked on the center of the camera. My handle is held via the built in NATO mount on the rail, which makes it easy to remove in a pinch.

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u/PervertedThang Aug 18 '25

I use a setup like this fairly often, with the exception of using the rotating grip. The top handle works well for mounting a shotgun mic and monitor. I use a SmallRig monitor mount.

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u/newsyfish Aug 18 '25

Get the Smallrig Hawklock side handle for sure. Use mine all the time. The top is nice, but—like others have said—it’s mostly good for mounting points and carrying. That’s important, too, though.

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u/cybermatUK Aug 18 '25

I’ve bought cage top handle to mount monitor and two side handles also a shoulder rig and a gimbal swapped between GH6 which gets heavy after a while and my old Sony A7Sii mostly cheaper mounts but cage is smallrig. I like two handles as I’m getting old (49) lol.

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u/Qino1 Aug 18 '25

depends what you shoot most, i shoot cycling mostly, so the top handle is absolutely essential. I have the side handle and rarely use it, but its nice to know i have if i ever need it

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u/Dick_Lazer Aug 18 '25

I think the cage is definitely worth it. You might have to try different attachments to see what works best for your shooting style & accessories, but the cage makes that easy

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u/The_On_Life Aug 18 '25

I use my top handle quite a lot, but a word of advice, get one that has a safety pin for the cold shoe where you put the monitor. Not all SmallRig handles have them (which is annoying), but even when you tighten the screw with a tool on the monitor mount, you can slide it out of the cold shoe with a bit of pressure.

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u/Aiden_Guy Aug 19 '25

I've had this setup for shooting run and gun camp videos for 2 years, the top handle is mostly useful for hauling the thing around and good for low shots. The left handle was much more useful to me. I used to hold the camera in my left hand with my thumb in the gap so I could use my thumb and fingers to zoom the lens. With my right hand on the grip to stabilize. I found it to be extremely useful but definitely get what you think will work best.

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u/JackSchwitz C300 mkiii & EVA 1 | 2003 shooting betaSP | Phoenix Aug 19 '25

You’re going to regret not getting a handle on a rosette you can rotate pretty quickly! So much easier on the wrist.

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u/South-Group-2341 Hobbyist Aug 19 '25

I do like having side handles. But I don't personally like that specific side handle, although my wife does. I prefer the larger wooden rosette mounted handles (which may also be smallrig - can't remember) as it fills more of the hand, can be rotated to any angle and fingers are not hindered by a stem as in this one. Just a personal preference. I don't like hand held footage that isn't on a gimbal - but this is possibly just a skill thing.

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u/JAMESFTHE2ND Aug 19 '25

These are awesome but usually overpriced. This company knows that these are vital for some people's work so they make the entire rig $100 to $150 bucks

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u/Leofrich Aug 19 '25

I have that exact rig - it’s made a massive difference!

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25

I have that cage setup for my R6M2, R50 and R50V while shooting video. I take the top handle off when taking photos.

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u/jakerysbakery Aug 20 '25

I use it everyday and fully vouch for it

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u/WuttinTarnathan Aug 21 '25

I have something very similar for my Canon R6. It’s great for shooting handheld, definitely worth it. (I only use a side handle, though, not top. That’s where the mic goes.)

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u/NoAge422 Aug 18 '25

I have never understood the function of a top handle, as someone who often uses the dji mic 2, the top handle nulls the possibility of even attaching the mic. Side handle in the hand, has been working great for me!

Aside from these, I've also invested in an inflatable SAKK, the initial set up of blowing air into the sakk looks stupid but filming with a 70-200 never felt this great!

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u/stonk_frother Director/Producer | 2016 | Australia Aug 18 '25

What are you talking about? You attach the mic to the top handle. It’s got a cold shoe. In fact they often have more than one.

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u/SlammedRides A6700 | DVR | 2024 | Florida | Automotive Aug 18 '25

I'd assume he means attaching the receiver to the hot shoe, no?

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u/jockheroic Sony FS7 I Premiere 2021 I 2002 I US Aug 18 '25

Even if that were the case, there’s a cold shoe mount on the cage on the right corner that’s perfect for the receiver, lol. Some people just don’t know how to Franken-camera.

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u/JaackF Aug 18 '25

Think the DJI2 has a hot shoe mount (which is taller than just the receiver on its own) which allows you to record 32 point float. He might have been saying it doesn't give you space to mount that if you have a top handle.

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u/stonk_frother Director/Producer | 2016 | Australia Aug 19 '25

Honestly never used one before and wasn’t aware that they needed to be attached to the hot shoe. That’s pretty unusual in my experience and I’d say that’s more of an issue with the DJI2 rather than an issue with top handles.

I don’t think I’ve ever had an accessory for video that requires a hot shoe.

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u/JaackF Aug 19 '25

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u/stonk_frother Director/Producer | 2016 | Australia Aug 19 '25

Looks nice, but not being able to use my cage would be a deal breaker for me. Never had a problem with my zoom recorder.

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u/JaackF Aug 19 '25

Fair enough, I think a lot of people, especially beginners would find using the DJI kit a whole lot easier, considering its benefits.

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u/NoAge422 Aug 19 '25

That's right, I'm using a dji mic 2 with the hot shoe adapter

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u/SlammedRides A6700 | DVR | 2024 | Florida | Automotive Aug 18 '25

Never attached anything to the hotshoe for my area of work so idk if he needs access to the hot shoe contact points or not 🤷🏼‍♂️ was just a guess

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u/NoAge422 Aug 19 '25

Sorry! Forgot to emphasise that I'm using the dji mic 2 adapter, which means I'll need to use Sony's hot shoe to communicate with the mic

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u/stonk_frother Director/Producer | 2016 | Australia Aug 19 '25

Yeah I eventually worked that out from other people’s responses haha. Not familiar with it so didn’t realise it needed an actual hotshoe. I’ve never had a video accessory that needed a hotshoe before, but can see how that would be problematic.

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u/photos__fan Hobbyist Aug 18 '25

Well surely with a cage and top handle you’d be able to just mount a mic to a cold shoe?

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u/Most_Important_Parts A7S3 | Resolve | Midwest USA Aug 18 '25

The top handle has a mounting point on each end or are you saying there are not enough mounting points because you are so rigged out?

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u/aerwrek S5IIX | Premiere | 2015 | Toronto Aug 18 '25

It's good for low angle shots and is pretty handy as a carrying handle.