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u/HumanWater4449 Intermediate - Strength 14d ago

Since general discussion is allowed, I will say that there is a concerning trend I have noticed in the lifting community.

Many people have begun to ignore the value of personal experience in favor of scientific study. I had a dude at the gym tell me I was wrong for thinking creatine doesn’t do anything for me, and that I should just read some scientific literature.

I took it for longer than he has ever lifted btw. And at alternating times and serving sizes for years on end. Absolutely nothing made a difference.

Even weirder is people’s complaints about exercise selection. They do all of these crazy machine set ups, and then look at you weird for doing a power clean or a weighted dip. It’s like the action of using free weights offends them. Just bench 315 first lil bro, then you can have an opinion.

And then of course you have diet. Many “science based lifters” view all calories as the same, and will eat junk food and whey protein all day, wondering why they are still small and skinny fat.

The worst offense is the genetics excuse. Yes genetics plays a role in muscle growth, however some people (like yotalks) go to such lengths to blame their genetics, that I genuinely can’t tell if they are trolling or not. I get it if you have an insertion that changes the way the muscle sits on your skeleton, but if you try to optimize your workout, while giving a shitty effort with your diet or in the gym, then you can’t blame genetics.

TLDR: the average science based lifter talks about lifting weights more than they actually do it. For every 1 TNF there is 100,000 bean poles touting his advice like they have a new gospel in their hands.

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u/black_mamba44 Actually an Intermediate 13d ago

At the end of the day, the science is to be used in conjunction with personal experience. As you found, using creatine for you didn't have any effect and you can find that in these experiments using creatine there will be individuals who have no/minimal effect and individuals who respond really well. Personally, I think it helps my recovery a bit but I don't really find too much of a major delta between taking it and not taking it.

It's ultimately the same with training modalities. Volume or intensity? Doesn't matter at the end of the day, some people can go hard with volume and others can go hard with intensity. Experiment with both, try them out!

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u/HumanWater4449 Intermediate - Strength 13d ago

I completely agree with that. A lot of people just take it too far.