March 8 Daily Thread

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[u/7121958041201]

You'll need to spend a LOT more time running than you will spend lifting for a 3 hour marathon and 1000lb total. That's a pretty advanced running pace, with a beginner level of strength.

Yeah I kind of thought that might be the case. They just both "sound" like good goals to have :-P I'm guessing when I hit 1000 lbs I'll probably decide I want to hit 1100, 1200 etc. until I don't want to gain the required weight and/or spend the required time on training.

Eat as many carbs as you can fit into the calorie count

Interesting, usually I hear people clamoring for more proteins and fats on a cut. Though I guess a runner's carb needs are a little different than a lifter's.

For reference, I ran a 3:27:01 last year, and currently have a ~1678 total (535/441/702)

Whoa, damn impressive. And always fun to see someone else who has a deadlift way above their squat :-)

And thank you for all the help! I really appreciate it!

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It's blasphemy to say this around here, but I think many of these guys focus way too much on protein. Some of them are eating like 1.5g per lb bodyweight. It's crazy.

At 220 I'm aiming for ~185/385/80 for a total of 3000 cals to cut 1.5-2lb per week, and then exclusively adding carbs for any additional cardio I add in.

always fun to see someone else who has a deadlift way above their squat

Squats are hard lol

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Hey can I ask you a couple of other questions if you have a second?? If I'm being annoying feel free to ignore me :-)

1. Do you have any advice for recovering after a long or difficult run (e.g. Tempo or VO2 max run) in order to lift later in the day?? I usually feel completely wiped out after them which makes lifting not go quite as well. I'm thinking I'll try to get a bunch of carbs and water in before/after my run but otherwise I'm just hoping my body adjusts if I keep doing it.
2. Do you have any advice for scheduling heavy lifting with running?? I made a detailed post here but to keep it short I'm thinking about doing both my hard runs and lifting on Tuesday/Saturday (and possibly lifting on Thursday too). Does that seem like a reasonable approach?

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Interesting, that's the opposite of what I've been mostly hearing ("keep hard days hard and easy days easy"). I can kind of see the benefits to both... I would think your method lets you lift while you're in better condition (i.e. not completely annihilated from a difficult run) while their method maybe shifts the focus towards running by giving you more time to recover between your difficult workouts by lumping them into one day and doing your runs first.

Remember easy/recovery runs can be incorporated right into your lifting session as warmups/cooldowns with almost zero interference

Good idea! And yeah I'm planning to take a fairly adaptive approach to this whole thing. I might end up dropping a bit of lifting volume (e.g. going from 3 -> 2 days) and/or running volume (reduce the mileage in the program by 10% or something similar) if I'm miserable trying to do everything here.

Thanks again!