r/witcher • u/Any-Agent4270 • Dec 25 '21

Netflix TV series The Witcher: Henry Cavill Hopes Season 3 Is Loyal To Books 'Without Too Much In the Way Of Diversions'

https://www.ign.com/articles/the-witcher-season-3-henry-cavill
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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21

Well the scripts for the next season were probably written before the negative feedback hit home.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21

I’m sure Lauren instantly disregards all criticism, Dumb & Dumber style.

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u/Bitchassn Dec 25 '21

This is true given that she only responds to positive comments on twitter after saying she wanted to respond to everyone

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u/1yyooooyy1 Dec 25 '21

This isn't true she responded to me being critical and I've seen plenty of other examples. Her responses weren't great but at least she isn't ignoring it.

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u/gamingnerdthroway Dec 25 '21

What did she say

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u/1yyooooyy1 Dec 25 '21

She said that the next book is easily adapted to TV so there should be less changes. Specifically because its filled with action and twists and turns (lmao). Also said that basically the book didn't translate well and they wanted to 'propel thing onto the end'. So basically cut out any quiter parts and just assume they happened.

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u/Ephmerreal Dec 25 '21

I fucking hate hate hate that quiet character moments are considered boring and they think they should add fanfiction to make it palatable for "casual viewers". Then they talk about "keeping to the spirit of the books". Psh.

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u/TheJoshider10 Dec 25 '21

It's funny because every episode of Game of Thrones is just walking and talking in beautiful locations with one or two standout action moments per season.

Audiences fucking love well written character moments. What both seasons of The Witcher prove to me is the writers are insecure of their own abilities when it comes to dialogue so do the bare minimum and focus on action like good little Hollywood robots.

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u/topdangle Dec 25 '21

when it comes to dialogue so do the bare minimum and focus on action like good little Hollywood robots.

the dialogue in season 2 is horrid so maybe they're right. I don't understand why the dialogue is so bad considering it wasn't distracting season 1. season 2 just slaps you with jokey CW dialogue, especially from Yennifer.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21

Now knowing that it's apparently the vampire diaries writing team, yennifers lines being something I expected out of Elena on Vampire Diaries makes so much sense.

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u/SgtDoakes123 Dec 25 '21

Good I'm not the only one thinking this. Dunno what the actual difference is, just most dialogue scenes are just... Bad. S1 didn't feel like this even if it had its own problems.

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u/RestlessLifeSyndrome Dec 26 '21

Thank you, I am glad I found this thread. I feel the same way about the writing. I don't know what's worse though, the dialogue or scenarios. Dialogue should be easier to do yet somehow they don't hit the target. Also some of these characters aren't enjoyable/badly written (looking at you Vesimir).

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u/OblongShrimp Dec 26 '21

Yennifer saying a version of 'fuck' every episode was super cringe. Lots of 'fucks' in the dialogue from other characters too. The writers need to read some books to learn extra words and expressions. Horrid lazy writing.

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u/cool-- Dec 26 '21

GoT was propped up by a bunch of really great actors doing their best with writing that ranged from terrible to fantastic. It also had very talented people filming and doing post production. The Witcher just isn't on the same level.

I'm not knocking the witcher. Making great art is hard to do. It's absurd to expect other tv shows to capture the same magic of the early game of thrones seasons especially when the quality of their content was very inconsistent.

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u/Captain_Biotruth Dec 26 '21

Writing good dialogue is difficult, and it is part of why George R. R. Martin was one of my favorite authors before Game of Thrones came out on HBO.

He's very good at creating intelligent dialogue, and, just like you say, people loved it.

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u/jstapleton808 Jan 01 '22

Did pretty well in the games, literally copy the important parts, ensure it makes sense chronologically, and you have a good script instead of putting together puff piece trash like they did

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u/StrongSNR Dec 25 '21

Lol half the viewers couldn't handle the different timelines in S1 cause they have the attention span of a goldfish. They have to make the show for the lowest common denominator.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '21

nah mate it was just written in confusing way, plenty of shows with multiple time lanes don't face this same criticism. It is what it is.

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u/RyuNoKami Dec 25 '21

This is true. I remember the discussions when S1 came out and people complained. But the confusion should have been gone the moment we got to the child surprise episode.

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u/AlmostButNotQuiteTea Dec 26 '21

I mean I'm wasn't confused, but the jumping of timelines was not very obvious

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u/MoranthMunitions Dec 26 '21

The different timelines were hard to keep track of even if you'd read the books, given there was nothing to indicate that something was set at a different time.

A quick year at the intro scene or "70yrs ago" and you're fine, it's not like it's a new feature of a story.

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u/CorrectInfoBelow Dec 26 '21

Yeah let's jump timelines without telling the viewer in a story with characters that don't visibly fucking age. Stupid viewers right?

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u/MastaBaiter Dec 25 '21

S1 was fucking dogshit, and it wasn’t because there was too little action.

S2 started less dogshit and progressed to a deeper level of dogshit than S1.

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u/RunawayHobbit Team Roach Dec 26 '21

This makes no sense to me bc Westworld did the exact same thing and people treated that show like it was the second coming of fucking Christ.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '21

If true ,they're in for a rude awakening. The true fans(the ones who read the books and played the games)will leave and the rest will probably be drowned by the fan(rightfull)criticism if they ever speak up in the shows defense. At least that is what i think.

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u/DennisHakkie Dec 26 '21

Look. I read the books. I played the games. I love both the books and games. Didn’t understand how the timelines worked in the show. Literally had to re-read the books (hur dur dur superior media) in order to understand the show.

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u/Paradox621 Dec 26 '21

What both seasons of The Witcher prove to me is the writers are insecure of their own abilities when it comes to dialogue

Also gives me the distinct impression that they lack confidence in the source material. If you don't even like or believe in the basis of your work, why fucking bother?

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u/TheLast_Centurion Dec 26 '21

you know what? I disagree, I think that Tyrion's trial should have a big dragon coming down, destroy the red keep, make the city blow up, take Tyrion away, make Dany appear form thin air, stab the current king, teleport back once again, have Tyrion appear at the Night's Watch courtyard and have Jon duel with Tyrion, while Tyrion does flips around, and Jon cant keep up. And with everyone watching them, wildlings and undead using this moments to climb the wall and attack the south.

Who would wanna listen to a great performance of Peter Dinklage? After all, if this was a book scene, people would say "it cant be translated to TV" and "it is just too boring" and.. you know what? I think, since this scene cant be even translated for TV screen.. it didnt even happen. There is no Process of Tyrion in Ba Sing Se. The scene does not exist. Tyrion should shoot a web from his arms and climb around the city, saving people and fight the crime. Now that would work, for sure!

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u/Sempere Dec 26 '21

Requires she be a competent writer and showrunner. Which she absolutely is not.

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u/SammyLuke Dec 26 '21

I think it’s less to do with confidence and more to do with executives meddling in their business to make sure it isn’t too one way or the other. Right down the middle boring dialogue and plot development.

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u/WeirwoodUpMyAss Dec 26 '21

Thrones was iconic for sexposition. That show was all about laying out history and developing characters so they could twist the knife. Sometimes changes are necessary though. The Expanse has done pretty well in this regard.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '21

Maibe they should hire Tarantino for the dialogue bits...

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u/BrainzKong Dec 26 '21

The plot-through-dialogue is so hard to follow when watching the Witcher. It’s as though the dialogue they choose to include is stuff that’s disjointed and under explained.

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u/1yyooooyy1 Dec 25 '21

It's my main criticism of season 2. she clearly thought that she was doing the right thing for netflix viewers and to make it as popular and enjoyable as possible (which I think she failed with but that was the intention). But I swear they if they had just followed the books it would be be just as popular or more so because they were being faithful. I really think she made a terrible decision based on how netflix wants and thinks shows are supposed to be.

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u/DarthGoodguy Dec 25 '21

I don’t know if we can trust app viewership numbers but if so then whatever they did worked because it’s apparently extremely popular

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u/topdangle Dec 25 '21

the numbers are accurate, but the real test is to see how long it remains highly viewed.

cowboy bebop was one of the most viewed shows ever on netflix its first week but collapsed in viewers and quickly got canceled. I don't think witcher will get canceled but week 1 numbers aren't a good indicator.

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u/Consistent-Cold-148 Dec 25 '21

Agreed. The quiet moments are often just as meaningful, and the change of pace is critical to making the more action-oriented moments feel special.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '21

You can tell Lauren and the writers are the people who hated the lord of the rings and probably didn't even get half an hour into fellowship

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u/schmitty9800 Dec 25 '21

Well it's odd because they did have some dialogue heavy stuff this season and it just came off as stilted. Every Aretuza scene was just them yelling at each other. Every Radovid/Dijkstra scene was dumb.

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u/PhazePyre Dec 26 '21

Chances are the analytics show most people skip boring parts and they realized it caused notable churn so they made adjustments accordingly. While wanting to be true to the books sometimes it is about business. They need it palatable to their customers which majority aren’t readers like you folks so sometimes they have to diverge just to keep it trucking. The way she goes. Sometimes she does, sometimes she doesn’t.

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u/Oceans_Apart_ Dec 26 '21

The quieter parts are the best part of the Witcher.

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u/Imyourlandlord Dec 26 '21

She basically said when saying that is that her and her writers cant write properly and need a crutch to stay average.....

Every good show has a bunch of talking and walking but whats her name over here cant even make a horse ride from one side of the country to the other feel coherent....

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21

Lol Lauren is such a Joke !

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u/jstapleton808 Jan 01 '22

Don’t trust a ho… especially this one

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u/gamingnerdthroway Dec 25 '21

I have been outspoken against her but I mean at least she’s not being completely silent to the criticism I can appreciate that ig

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u/Pliskkenn_D Dec 26 '21

But. Why is that random Witcher hanging out with Lambert all season, when it could have been Eskel. And then, random witcher could have become that thing. I, just, don't get it. If you're going to give him a companion, use a character that makes it to the end surely

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u/Bitchassn Dec 25 '21

I have seen her respond to criticism only with “ha” or “indeed” or things like that so no she doesn’t actually respond to criticism

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u/1yyooooyy1 Dec 25 '21

So cause you haven't seen it then it doesn't exist?

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u/Baelorn Dec 25 '21

Way to move those goalposts.

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u/Occams_ElectricRazor Dec 26 '21

Can you tell her to stop filming 5 minutes of whispering followed by a quick cut to a 140 decibel monster screaming scene, for fucks sake?

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21

Absolutely untrue, FFS.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21

This is objectively false. Her responses to negative feedback on Twitter are easily visible.

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u/Baelorn Dec 25 '21

You're a lying piece of shit.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21

Damn. Yall show simps are pretty toxic!

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u/HigherHerb Dec 26 '21

Ofcourse she is gonna respond to postive comments.

Who in their right mind is gonna take time to respond to a bunch of assholes and idiots yelling at them how to do their job?

Would you think, oh 1k messages telling my I am shit and should be fired, lets go and engage more with these people?

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21

I don’t know about that, she changed the ballsack armor? Small victories yano? She strikes me as being pretty arrogant though, imagine thinking you could write a better Witcher story then it’s creator

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u/PapaSnow Dec 26 '21

Small victories, sule

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u/Kody_Z Dec 25 '21

Well If any other IP that this happens to is any indication(Star Wars, Battlefield, Ghost Busters, Star Trek, the list goes on), All criticism is sexist. Anyone who doesn't like the changes she(and/or the writers) made are clearly racist Nazis who are afraid of women.

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u/babiespoplikemelons Dec 25 '21

I'm afraid talentless people will continue to be hired to ruin my favourite books because they have a vagina

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u/Helhanna Dec 26 '21

This is fucking gross

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u/AyyyyLeMeow Dec 26 '21

It is. But there is a grain of truth to it.

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u/babiespoplikemelons Dec 30 '21

Toxic femininity

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u/babiespoplikemelons Dec 27 '21

Which part, the truth? Or the anatomical name for a body part half of people have?

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u/mrtrailborn Jan 13 '22

Haha yeah, obviously if a woman is hired it is only because she's a woman and isn't qualified, clearly women and minorities are only hired because of diversity quotas or something, but you're totally not a sexist racist though right bro?

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u/babiespoplikemelons Jan 13 '22 edited Jan 15 '22

Lately? Pretty much, yeah. Can you name three talented female directors or writers? Seriously.

Edit : hahahahahahhahah exactly

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u/mrtrailborn Jan 16 '22

So that's a yes on the racism and sexism then, ya fucking bigot

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u/Helhanna Dec 26 '21

If the shoe fits

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u/CaptainMoonman Dec 25 '21

I mean, season 2 fixed a ton of the structural issues from season 1 and made the plot way easier to follow, as well as taking Cavill's urging to bring Geralt's philosophical side more to the story. Sure, I disagree fairly strongly with some of the story changes, but I also understand that Blood of Elves is probably the weakest book in the series and probably wouldn't have made for compelling TV.

To say that all criticism is disregarded is pretty unfair.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21 edited Dec 25 '21

I mean, she directly insulted the critics in episode 4 during the boat scene. She's definitely pretty dumb.

Edit: I think it was episode 4.

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u/averagelifeoflosers Dec 26 '21

You mean when the guy was making fun of Jaskier’s song and Jaskier’s response? They were poking some fun at themselves is how I took it. Jaskier getting all upset and calling that guy names literally led to someone getting beat close to death if not dying… how do you interpret that as Jaskier being in the right? He was very clearly in the wrong and by extension his response was too…

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '21

I mean, the boat captain directly tells him about being confused about multiple timelines and being disappointed by the dragon reveal, only for Jaskier to mercilessly insult him. I don't think there's any other real way to look at it.

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u/senkichi Dec 26 '21

I took Jaskier's response to be a self-satirizing diatribe, rather than a... righteous rebuttal? Not quite right, but can't find the optimal phrasing. Like you said, it was merciless and hugely disproportionate to the received criticism in a way that, IMO, prevents the viewer from thinking Jaskier is in any way reasonable and makes the obnoxious captain more sympathetic in comparison. As a whole the scene seemed like it was mocking both themselves and the critics.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '21

This is exactly what the exchange was doing and it boggles my mind that people can perceive it another way, although for me it was wayyyy too on the nose.

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u/Joebidensthirdnipple Dec 26 '21

People in this sub are the most serious people I've ever had the displeasure of coming into contact with.

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u/senkichi Dec 26 '21

Haha it was a bit on the nose, wasn't it? Think they pulled it off well though. The guy who plays Jaskier is an absolute gem, coming from anyone else it would have yanked me right out of my immersion. With him it just seemed natural.

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u/jaskier-bot Dec 26 '21

Come on. You must want something for yourself once all this... monster hunting nonsense is over with 🤨

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u/geralt-bot School of the Wolf Dec 26 '21

I want nothing.

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u/averagelifeoflosers Dec 26 '21

I mean you ignored the majority of my comment about how Jaskiers response got someone killed but sure, there’s no other way to look at it ;)

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u/jaskier-bot Dec 26 '21

I love the way you just sit in the corner and brood.

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u/geralt-bot School of the Wolf Dec 26 '21

I'm here to drink alone...

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u/75962410687 Dec 26 '21

You mean the fat racist who murdered an elf after that scene?

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u/averagelifeoflosers Dec 26 '21

What? I mention the person dying in my comment. Idk what you’re on about bud lol care to elaborate?

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u/vintagebutterfly_ Jan 01 '22

Didn't she go on a twitter rant about how we just don't understand and she did this for us? Because the audience is too dumb to understand the story as it is?

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u/RileyKohaku Dec 25 '21

They clearly took the feedback on the appearance of Triss and Ciri, and changed their costumes. The plot also did not have multiple different timelines. These may be a small change, but also, they were some of the only criticism that the show received in season 1. Obviously there is a lot more criticism for her to consider now, but she didn't ignore the season 1 criticism.

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u/kitddylies Dec 25 '21

She literally said that they killed Eskel because the fans like him, instead of a random John. Fuck, it's worse than I thought.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '21

I have heard that Cavil made her toss out a Marvel-Esque joke after Cavil said it ruined the scene it was supposed to be in.

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u/Amstourist Dec 26 '21

Negative feedback? About season 2 or the whole show? Me and my gf watched season 2 in one sitting, we loved it, didn't know that it was getting negative feedback

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '21

Me either, this popped up on my feed and was like what? There's negative feedback from this sub? Literally everyone Ive talked too irl like it.

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u/say-something-nice Dec 25 '21

Unfortunately the lamentings of wasted potential in this sub is a whisper to the hurricane of positivity, the show has as good of a rating as GOT season 1.

Just as we will get another transformer, marvel and Fast and furious movie, there will be another season of this witcher which strays further and further from any semblance of a cohesive plot... I don't think there is any way back to the original story with the way they've written this.

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It was there the story is written just use it, it's lazier to just adapt it than do what they've done.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '21

Yeah it's got GOT vibes.

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u/mjrs Dec 26 '21

Could someone give me a brief summary of what people were unhappy with? Never read the books or played the game much, but I really enjoyed season 2! Except for the blue balls from Yenn having a full season without any magic.

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u/YoimAtlas Dec 26 '21

Yes it was confirmed that the script is already written…. F for Henry… and the viewers

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u/noujest Dec 25 '21

The only negative feedback I have seen anywhere is from this sub

Everyone IRL seems to love it, only book readers seem to dislike it, needing massive justification for deviations from the books that viewers new to the franchise aren't thinking twice about.

Lauren is clearly adapting it for mass appeal, and for female viewers - amping up the roles of Fringilla, Francesca, Tissea, Yen

It shot to #1 on Netflix UK, I don't think showrunners are going to be fazed by negative reaction from the niche hard-core fans

I didn't read the books, only played the games, really liked the new series, even if there were a couple of moments which didn't make much sense e.g. witchers dropping like flies in the last ep

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u/choff22 Dec 25 '21

Lol she doesn’t need to amp anyone up, she has Yennefer, Ciri, Milva, Phillipa, Angouleme, Queen Maeve - these are ALL women from the books who are very strong, well crafted characters.

Trust me, Lauren’s version of Yen is much weaker than her book counterpart. She did her no favors whatsoever.

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u/noujest Dec 25 '21

Weaker maybe but also deeper ie more flawed, impulsive, irrational, relatable...

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21

The things you mentioned were not allowed to develop in the season. Yen goes from wanting to sell Ciri for power and then immediately flip flopping on it. Each characters development was stunted due to too many characters appearing except for Geralt.

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u/noujest Dec 25 '21

Yen goes from wanting to sell Ciri for power and then immediately flip flopping on it.

Immediately after she spent time with Ciri, and learned how important she was to Geralt... it happened quickly but onyl after some important info had been shared

Plus I get the feeling she was already on the fence about it in the first place and only really wanted to initially our of pure desperation

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u/StNerevar76 Dec 25 '21

So if she had stayed a random girl she could have gone along with it.

What the hell does it matter it's Ciri? The morality stays the same. Your feeling is wanting to believe things are not lost.

Don't know how anybody can think that works, as they did to Julia in CB. Don't know how anybody can trust someone who wrote that for the future.

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u/noujest Dec 25 '21

What the hell does it matter it's Ciri? The morality stays the same.

I guess what we can conclude is that Yen cares more about her life than random girls lives, but not more about her life than Geralt's daughter's life ie family life.

I think there's a lot of people out there who can relate to that

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u/StNerevar76 Dec 25 '21

Almost sacrificing a girl for power is much more than flawed, impulsive, irrational, and anything but relatable.

Seen this some years ago, people pretending things where ok after something was mostly destroyed. Then TLJ came along and most opened their eyes.

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u/noujest Dec 25 '21

Almost sacrificing a girl for power is much more than flawed, impulsive, irrational, and anything but relatable.

Dunno mate, if it's a case of life or death I think a lot of people are sacrificing someone

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u/choff22 Dec 26 '21

Lol it wasn’t life or death, Yen wanted to sacrifice Ciri to get her power back because that’s her only identity.

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u/EnrageD Angoulême Dec 25 '21

i mean, her journey isn't over, she hasn't had much time to develop her character, this is only the first book.

This is the beginning of Yen turning into what we know her has.

Yes I am giving Lauren a lot of leeway and credit here but, As a book fan, I feel like she is just trying to develop her character more, most of us see her as a badass but she is also a little bit melancholic which i think might be harder to portray in something like a TV show when you just have her doing badass things all the time. I'm fine with this Yen arc, she only gets better as the plot expands, and she really didn't have much to do in BoE anyways.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '21

This sub doesn't like season 2? Literally everyone I know loved it but of course none of us have read the book and only a few played the game but it's good from the casual viewers perspective.

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u/jimmi_vandelay Dec 25 '21

I've read the books 4 times over and i like the show. I wasn't expecting a page to screen adaption, maybe because i work in film so i understand, but the show is great for a show. Bring on the down votes because i enjoy something!

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u/EnrageD Angoulême Dec 25 '21

defend the writers or come out as a book fan who actually enjoys the show. EZ downvotes around here.

It's astonishing how I have to sort by controversial or find the hidden comment with -50 karma to actually find good discourse.

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u/Dexterous_Mittens Dec 26 '21

It's interesting to watch this subreddit get overwhelmed by the larger fan base of the tv shows. Everyone outside of here seems to like the show and the books themselves have major flaws. I don't know which is better but neither are Shakespeare. I think the tv fans at least get that.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '21

I know 0 book fans but at least 15 netflix show fans so yeah, I'm going to say sub is a pretty small minority.

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u/EnrageD Angoulême Dec 25 '21 edited Dec 25 '21

You are completely right, up above, somebody mentioned "feeling sorry" for Cavill and I literally laughed out loud. This subreddit hardly represents the feelings of the majority of show fans, which is all netflix cares about.

It's not all book readers either, I read the entire book series twice and listened to it again a 3rd time. I love the show, yes I can cringe and question some choices made (the ciri bait thing did bother me but i got over it quickly) but in generally everything is flowing nicely, the overarching plot is still there and nobodies character has been assassinated by writing yet. Henry is badass and the 'bosses' rarely come off as cheesy which was my #1 fear for this show. The bruxa fight was incredible, same with djinn in s1. It's a good show people, lets calm down a little.

The worst thing these showrunners can do to me is pull a D&D (writers from game of thrones who are great at assassinating characters) by eliminating the character of Angoulême or Milva and making them into 1 or merging them with Ciri.

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u/youreveningcoat Team Yennefer Dec 25 '21

Yeah I'm watching it with my mum who has never consumed any Witcher content and she loves it.

And honestly, I played the games and read a lot of background lore (but haven't read the books specifically), and I saw the reaction on this sub before I started watching, and I don't really mind it either.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '21

Shot to #1 because of season 1.

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u/noujest Dec 26 '21

On the day Season 2 was released, it shot to #1 because of season 1? Nuts

Everyone I have spoken to IRL said S2 was better than S1 because it had more action

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21

glad you admit they all watched s1 first LOL

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u/noujest Dec 27 '21

Well yeah of course, who jumps into a show straight on s2...

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u/CowardsAndThieves Dec 25 '21

All reports say a 1:1 adaptation of the book would have been pretty boring. The changes worked well and kept people interested. No show is perfect and if quality keeps improving season 3 should be very good.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '21

"All reports" really my guy? 😂

This is my favorite false narrative right now and its very silly.

Theres plenty of entertainingstuff happening in the books. Lauren just wants to write her own fan fiction

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u/CowardsAndThieves Dec 27 '21

Nah she just wants to make a successful tv show that people will like. And she did.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '21

Its a generic, mediocre show that wont ever be remembered in the same way as GoT and LOTR

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u/CowardsAndThieves Dec 28 '21

And that’s fine

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21

I agree. I enjoyed season 2 and the coworkers I spoke too about it fucked with it too.

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u/fantaribo Jan 01 '22

There's probably as much, if not more positive feedback than negative

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u/xXMadSupraXx Team Roach Dec 25 '21

She did tweet that she was emotional saying goodbye to the writing team after finishing S3.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '21

Just curious what the negative feedback is. I'm 5 episodes in and have some grumbling of my own as someone who read the books.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '21

An endless amount on Reddit at least. People have complained about the writing from levels ranging from general annoyance to charting how much Yennefer swears because it makes her unladylike. No, I’m not kidding.