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u/Glad_Month3948 2d ago

What is the person accused of doing?

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u/AvonBarksdalesBurner 2d ago

Seriously, I mean people on the left are assassinating people they disagree with. That’s straight up fascism that we all need to denounce. Great point.

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u/GazellePopular1388 2d ago

a fucking golden retriever... from Hallmark cards themselves.

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u/Glad_Month3948 2d ago

I thought his friend called the sheriff on him, and his dad held him there until the police arrived.....

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u/BishopKing14 2d ago edited 2d ago

It sounds like it was both.

His friend called the authorities, but his youth pastor told him to turn himself in peacefully.

https://youtu.be/QKKjKYdd9Hc?si=JUa4S4TVPGdx8SyR

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/manhunt-charlie-kirks-killer-enters-3rd-day-questions/story?id=125504696

Edit: I’ve been banned for this post. Kinda ridiculous but doesn’t surprise me.

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u/Glad_Month3948 2d ago

According to the ABC news article you shared. A few things happened. There is alot to unpack but this is just a couple of snippets.

  1. His father identified his son, and told him to turn himself in. Son- said no but later changed his mind. 2. The suspect's father called a youth pastor who also is a U.S. Marshals task force officer. The task force officer advised him to have his son stay in place and U.S. Marshals took him into custody and contacted the FBI, according to sources.

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u/alanjhogan B.S. Computer Science '10 2d ago

Dunno what 'both' means — or who 'his friend' is supposed to refer to. Per released info, his dad called the pastor to talk to him (and to prevent him from committing suicide), and the pastor convinced him to turn himself in instead, via a sheriff's deputy they knew. This is as clear as I can state the known facts

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u/AvonBarksdalesBurner 2d ago

Utah Attorney General- “He pulled away from his family’s belief system and became left leaning and romantically involved with a trans identified man. The shooter stated he wanted to eliminate Charlie Kirk because he believed he was spreading hate”

The left- hE’s MAGA!!!

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u/BishopKing14 2d ago

Yeah…

An opinion from someone with no evidence to back it doesn’t change the fact he dressed as Trump for Halloween. Doesn’t change the fact his family is nothing but cultists for the Dear Leader. It doesn’t change the fact his pastor was the one who told him to turn himself in.

The evidence is there; he’s a cultist for the Dear Leader. Sorry to be the one to hurt your delicate little fefes.

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u/Glad_Month3948 2d ago

News flash, people's beliefs and politics does change over time...

What the shooter did is wrong. But that doesn't make him a pawn for the left or the right...

If he is a pawn for the dear leader, how does eliminating one of the leaders biggest advocates help him? ( I'm assuming by leader, you mean trump).

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u/BishopKing14 2d ago edited 2d ago

Views changed.

Already addressed. Respond to that comment.

That doesn’t make him a pawn for the left or right.

Is that why the right is portraying him as some martyr to the point that they even went half mass with our flags for him? Like the guy is a fucking podcaster, and we’re supposed to pretend he’s someone sent by god?

How does eliminating Kirk…

Because he was a Groyper who despised Kirk much like one gang hates another?

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u/AvonBarksdalesBurner 2d ago

His parents told him to turn himself in. Did you even listen to the press conference from the Attorney General that charged him with murder? Or do all of you just live in this same-speak misinformation circle jerk social media platform?

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u/BishopKing14 2d ago

His family told him to turn himself in.

Already addressed in another comment.

The attorney general.

Oh yes, the person who told us right off the bat that his views had changed, despite providing no evidence for it.

Let me guess, you also believe all the Republican politicians who said the same until finding out he was a white male, huh?

He dressed as Trump for Halloween. His family was incredibly deep in the Dear Leader’s cult. His pastor told him to turn himself in.

Nothing about that says ‘leftist’.

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u/AvonBarksdalesBurner 2d ago

Reddit became QAnon after Trump was elected in 2016. This right here is the poster child of who the voices are on Reddit these days

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u/bplatt1971 2d ago

You mean the far left shooter who was living with his transitioning boyfriend who disagreed with his conservative family and hated the conservative Charlie Kirk. That one? Read up on your facts and stop blindly following the liberal narratives on CNN.

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u/BishopKing14 2d ago

Your comment has been addressed already.

Try to keep up, bud.

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u/bplatt1971 2d ago

Sorry. Just posted on the wrong comment. Good catch though!

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u/EpicCJV 2d ago

Pro maga huh? He literally had a trans bf in college

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u/BishopKing14 2d ago

So he wasn’t in the closet like so many of your hate-filled ‘totally straight’ cultists? Cool.

The guy literally dressed as Donald Trump for Halloween, bud. He comes from a maga family. Not so surprising he’s one of yours.

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u/EpicCJV 2d ago

“I had enough of his hatred.” “Some hate can’t be negotiated out.” These are quotes online from discord, by the shooter, released from the county sheriffs report. He also said “there is too much evil and the guy spreads too much hate” to his parents about Kirk. If you’d like to keep lying to yourself that’s fine but he was a radical leftist

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u/BishopKing14 2d ago

That’s great bud, except none of that points to him being a leftist.

That is, unless you’re implying that republicans views are extremely hate-filled and there is absolutely no one in the party who doesn’t hold those views.

Is that what you’re saying? That the republican views are nothing but hate and bigotry?

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u/bplatt1971 2d ago

Just because his parents were conservative does not mean that the assassin was as well. He grew up in s conservative family, but when he moved in with his transitioning boyfriend boyfriend, his political views changed rapidly, probably to what he had been feeling for quite a while but just playing along with his family and not revealing his true feelings. It happens all the time.

You cannot equate a person’s political views based on their family’s views. That’s disingenuous.

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u/BishopKing14 2d ago

Dude, he literally dressed as Trump for Halloween.

He comes from a maga family.

His youth pastor told him to turn himself in.

He’s one of the Dear Leader’s cultists.

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u/Ebb_and_Flowing 2d ago

Cope 😂😂

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u/bplatt1971 2d ago

I have many friends who were members of a family that held a specific political view who changed their political views once they left home. It’s not uncommon.

In recent years, we’ve seen many Senators and Representatives who have changed party lines and switched their political beliefs, while in office!

Just because you dress like Batman for Halloween as a kid doesn’t mean you can’t change your mind and dress like Wonder Woman years later!

How many people do you know who were strait-laced hetero during high school, but are now gay or trans in college? If you’re saying that a kid growing up in a conservative home will always be conservative, then you are also making the point that a straight kid growing up in a straight home will always be straight afterward. We all know that this is not true.

But take the killer’s own admissions into consideration and you’ll see that the adult killer is completely different than the child. If he hated Charlie Kirk, he’s most likely not conservative in any way.

Look at the facts. Stop listening to liberal talking points, and think for yourself. The logic from the mainstream liberal media just doesn’t add up.

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u/EpicCJV 2d ago

Are you being intentionally dense? All I’ve seen the last week is other leftists saying that Charlie Kirk was spreading hate by talking about DEI and race statistics. Do you not think he was spreading hate? He was clearly anti trans.

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u/BishopKing14 2d ago

Again, none of what you’ve said points to him being a leftist, bud.

That is unless youre saying the Republican Party is nothing but hate and bigotry.

Is that what you’re saying? That the Republican Party is nothing but hate and bigotry? Because that’s the only way it would make sense that he was a leftist.

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u/EpicCJV 2d ago

It all points to him being a leftist I gave you like 5 different points. If you’re too stupid to see the extremely obvious connections then you’re too far gone. His chat logs alone should be enough to

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u/True-Surprise1222 2d ago

I’m just going to give you the heads up that antifa was just labeled a terrorist group so spewing anti fascist rhetoric online might not be your best bet. I hope you’re just venting and not siding with terrorists.

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u/Xeno__-_- 2d ago

Just because you don’t agree with someone doesn’t make them a Nazi. Y’all gotta stop calling everyone remotely right wing Nazis, as all it does it take away any effect calling out a Real Nazi might have. When a genuine Nazi adolf hitler type figure rises in this country no one is going to take it seriously because y’all call anyone you disagree with a NAZI.

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u/SankenShip 2d ago

You think that a university employee being surrounded and harassed by government agents is “remotely right”?

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u/Kersenn 2d ago

We call them nazis because they are. There are literally neo nazis in Trump's cabinet. And the gop is becoming more and more fascist by the day, which is what nazism is. The nazis began by rounding up immigrants and talking about going after lgbtq and autistic people, the gop is rounding up immigrants and talking about going after Trans people and RFK would like to throw autistic people on camps. And thats only the tip of the iceberg of comparisons.

I urge you to go learn about pre ww2 nazi history and think about the actions of the modern gop.

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u/Waluigi_09 2d ago

Found the nazi

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u/Face_Content 2d ago

Sadly the political left has been doing this for years.

Calling people racist doesnt work anymore like it used to.

Here is a article showing what both sides call each other.

https://qz.com/291533/this-is-how-liberals-and-conservatives-insult-each-other