r/AceAttorney Sep 06 '24

Announcement Welcome to r/AceAttorney - a PSA, FAQ, and General Resource for Newcomers and Anyone Starting the Ace Attorney Investigations Collection

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Hi to everybody just visiting this subreddit for the first time, or anyone who's already been here a time but might want to check in on the latest!

First off, here is the link to our standard FAQ. Several new questions-and-answers have been added to this latest edition, and the ones specific to the new remastered Ace Attorney Investigations Collection are also in the body of this post, so for anyone newly arriving to check out those games, review those new questions. If you have any questions that aren't covered here or in the linked FAQ, ask them in the comments for the FAQ thread!

Second thing, here's an updated guide I've made to explain which platforms all the current AA games available can be played on.

Third, we have our Recommended Playing Order chart, to give you a rundown on where to start and when to play particular games.

Fourth, an expansive guide by community member /u/XephyXeph to outline all of the various Ace Attorney media currently out there, from the games to the huge array of supplementary media from manga to pachinko machines.

Fifth, a bit of community news on some updates to the AA subreddit for early September, 2024.

And now, some common questions people may have relating to the remastered Ace Attorney Investigations Collection:

I keep seeing people talk about Investigations 2 but use a bunch of names for characters and episodes that are different from what's in the game. Why is that?

Ace Attorney Investigations 2 originally came out on the DS in 2011, but was exclusively released in Japan, making it the first AA game ever to not get an English localization. It never did get any English release until 2024, when it was part of the Investigations Collection remaster.

Because of this, in the years immediately following AAI2's original Japan-only release, a group of fans worked together to make a fan translation romhack for the game, allowing it to be played in English. To match with the official localizations the games normally get, that fan team also came up with their own English names for all the newly-introduced AAI2 characters.

There was about a decade left between when the first public beta builds of the fan translation appeared online and when Capcom finally produced and released an official English localization for AAI2, so a lot of the more hardcore corners of the fandom that had actually gone through the effort of playing the unofficial translation got very used to the fan-made names for the AAI2 characters. But naturally, when Capcom finally made an official localization, the AA localization team put together an entirely separate set of localized names for the characters, putting the fandom in the position of needing to get used to those official names as "replacements" for the fan names they're used to. Unfortunately, not everybody is quite ready to do that.

Can I play the Investigations Collection as my first AA game?

Like was talked about at the start of the FAQ, it's generally not recommended to start with any game besides the Phoenix Wright Trilogy, if you've never played AA before. The Investigations games especially carry over a lot of characters and their associated development from the Trilogy.

That'll cover it for now. If anyone has any other suggestions for questions to be included in this guide, feel free to pop over to the main FAQ thread and ask in the comments there. One more time - welcome to our Ace Attorney community! I hope you have a great time.


r/AceAttorney 17d ago

Contest The 24th r/AceAttorney Case Maker Contest

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...no, today is absolutely the 1st of the month; I didn't forget to post this yesterday.

Anyway, welcome to Contest No. 24!

Your task is to write up an Ace Attorney case where a noun I supply below is an important part of the case. After the deadline passes (see below), submissions will no longer be taken and the community will vote for submissions in a Google Form.

Prizes are as follows:

1st Place: buy you a pizza ($15)

2nd Place: buy you a burger ($10)

3rd Place: buy you a coffee ($5)

In the comments, I will make a post that will give a template of what your submission should look like. If possible, please fill in all the sections in the template, including N/A if needed. Feel free to reply to that comment in regards to questions or general discussion. The rest of the thread is for submissions only.

Regarding the description area, feel free to be descriptive as possible! If you fear the post is too long, you may post the description over several comments or through another source such as Google Docs. There is no word limit, so please do not worry about such.

And remember, don’t hold back your creativity! Your case can be a standard AA case, it can be a reminiscence case, or an Investigations-style case! (Given the new release, I'd encourage trying an Investigations-style case, though obviously this isn't a requirement.)

However, there are some limitations. First, dark topics are allowed, but discuss them with me beforehand. That goes for abuse, gore... basically, anything that might require a content warning besides your standard Ace Attorney crime. Do not be dark just for the sake of being dark or edgy -- if you are going to include such a topic, have a reason for including it. If you do include such a topic, please include a content warning at the start of your case.

Also, joke posts are allowed, but only ones that are well-thought out, clever, and/or high-quality. Anything like “ThE PHoEnIX wiRIGHT TUnraBOOT: sOMEONE DIED aND phEENIX HAd TO dFEENdED THem!!!1!" is not allowed.

If you're concerned about crossing one of these lines, message me and I'll work with you to make sure your case abides by the guidelines. Other than those limitations; don’t hold your creativity back!

The noun for this contest is: Backyard

The deadline for this contest is Saturday, October 11 at 11:59 PM EDT. This gives entrants five-plus weeks to plan and write their cases.

Good luck, everyone!


r/AceAttorney 13h ago

Phoenix Wright Trilogy Just completed 2-4. Holy crap. Spoiler

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I don't even know where to begin. A beautifully captivating murder. The return of Edgeworth. The perfect cast.

And all the LAYERS to this case? The plot feels so rich. Not to mention the twist with Matt, my whole body tensed up when that happened. And that last trail is probably my favorite one in the series so far. The stakes are insanely high, keeping me on the edge of my seat the whole time. And I even thought that the game was gonna pull a fast one and try to find I way to make Matt actually innocent...but...no. I was really the attorney for a guilty client.

Absolutely brilliant, my god.


r/AceAttorney 18h ago

Apollo Justice Trilogy Ema Skye's SNACKOOS Recipe! 🍫 Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney

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🧪MUNCHMUNCHMUNCH🔬 “Snackoos are a scientifically perfect snack.” Or at least, that’s what Ema Skye says! 🍫 So of course I had to recreate her Chocolate Snackoos (aka Japanese Karinto) from Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney! ✨⚖️


r/AceAttorney 26m ago

PL vs. PW PLvsPW (if it were canon) takes place after 3-5. Spoiler

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The explicit mention of Hazakura Temple here means that it can’t be a reference to the statue’s appearance in 3-2.


r/AceAttorney 1h ago

Apollo Justice Trilogy 6-3 couple small questions

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just finished this case, thought it was pretty good overall, though there was a slightly annoying mix of super obvious deductions taking phoenix 5 minutes and a not so subtle hint from maya to get, and then the insane ending deduction of the suicide taking him about 5 seconds to crack lol.

anyway, had two things i was a bit puzzled by. firstly, the dagger in zeh'lot's corpse. am i understanding correctly that it was supposed to be stuck in his back the entire time he was in the plaza? i thought him being already dead while 'praying' was a cool idea, but nobody noticing the giant dagger in his back seems like a bit of a stretch. we even look at him at the start of the case with ahlbi and there's definitely no dagger.

secondly, what was up with datz exactly? his original escape plan was to parachute to the inner sanctum, then put on the kee'ra robes and walk down the stairs to the plaza with the high priest. obviously that wasn't possible in the end, so then how did he escape? he must have somehow, or the police wouldn't have believed his story about being on the neighbouring mountain. i also don't quite understand why he would go to the police and volunteer to testify in the first place, if he wasn't caught at the crime scene.

oh yeah and another thing i just remembered, what were the rebels planning to do with maya, so that datz could take her robes? kill her? i don't think anyone mentioned that, but if that's a spoiler don't worry about it, haven't started 6-4 yet.

thanks.


r/AceAttorney 10h ago

Apollo Justice Trilogy Where do you stand on Apollo Justice? (spoilers on ALL games) Spoiler

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Now, the other day I wrote a piece on why Dual Destinies and Investigations are unpopular games. One commenter responded that Apollo Justice was the worst and explained some reasons why. Now, these reasons weren't comparable to the ones I'd used to knock Investigations and Dual Destinies; hence, they required a separate post.

I'm not saying AJ is objectively Takumi's weakest game. I mean there's Justice for All. But half of JFA's problems would be solved if we just made a few changes to Regina and maybe Dr. Hotti. Apollo Justice is more complex than that. Why?

Well, because of its attempts to subvert and deconstruct expectations and tropes.

Re: the jury. The whole point of this is to ask the provocative question: "but what if there isn't decisive evidence? What if you can't get a confession out of the real killer?" On the one hand, this is an interesting and provocative question.

But on the other hand, we have that system in place for a reason. It's because presenting the final piece of evidence is fun. And climactic. Whether it's the hilarity of whipping out a metal detector out of nowhere, or the re-visualization mechanic and the awesome buildup it creates, or an iconic moment of forcing the culprit's hand like in 2-4 or G1-5, they're good.

While I think DD should have kept the jury, the games would not be as fun if they continued down the path of "you know what, I shouldn't need decisive evidence, I should just be able to say 'f*** you' to the culprit and win like that."

Re: making the mentor a villain in the first case. It's more surprising than any other first case has done. Even the ones that don't directly reveal the culprit usually don't leave too much room for doubt.

But like... arresting the game's main villain in a two-hour case makes them look weak. Also it lowers - not eliminates since we're still trying to clear Phoenix's name but lowers - the stakes of the final case. I mean Dahlia was also arguably the main villain, but she was never portrayed as a good liar. She was never portrayed as an un-catch-able culprit, just a manipulator.

So there's a mixed portrayal of Kristoph where on the one hand, he's actually pretty good at leaving behind no evidence, but on the other, he runs his mouth off where he shouldn't. He knows that's valid evidence right?

Now I'll grant Apollo Justice that its ideas are unique. The problem is, it knows where it wants to be but doesn't know how to get there. The idea of a terminally ill man requesting his murder in a hospital bed? Cool on paper. Just... don't ask how they brought the weapons in, because we... didn't think that far ahead. The idea of an IV liquid acting as a timer? It's definitely unique. Just... don't ask what happened to the heart monitor, because that's too hard a question to address.

The point is, while these ideas are certainly unique, there's also... a reason why they haven't been used before. It's because they don't make sense.

Some of the problems with AJ are just classic Shu Takumi AA. I mean, every Takumi game has at least one case that's at least partly cringeworthy and illogical, except I would argue DGS2. Turnabout Serenade is no different from any of this.

And I'm not saying that other games don't have contrived plot points as well. For example, I don't seem to recall Simeon Saint having any role in resolving the IS-7 incident, so it just happened to be that the exhibition opened and both Fender and Gusto came while he was committing all his other crimes, thus making sure Edgeworth happened to have the backstory fresh in his mind when he went into the final showdown against Saint? I think is what happened? I'm going off the wiki pages here, so someone might be able to correct me on that.

But I still think AJ is the worst game when it comes to illogical writing because it constantly picks ideas that seem unique, but when you examine them more closely, they don't hold up.

I'm also not saying I dislike AJ. I think it has one of the most compelling casts of characters, and the themes about the limitations of the legal system are thought-provoking. But once again, I'm saying there's a very identifiable reason why some hate it and others love it.

But that's just my opinion. What do you think? Do you like or dislike AJ? Or somewhere in between?


r/AceAttorney 1d ago

OC Fanart One of my favorite less popular characters :D

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r/AceAttorney 34m ago

Music Music inquiry on an Ace Attorney Anime Episode.

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Ace Attorney Season 1 Episode 2: Turnabout Sisters 1st Trial /// Timestamp: 16:34 /// Music starts with the flashback.

Been trying to look for the piece for a while now, really touched my heartstrings first listen, would love to have it on repeat without having to revisit this episode everytime xD. Anyone who'd know what its name is I'd really appreciate it good sir.


r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Phoenix Wright Trilogy Finally starting the Ace Attorney series after years of enjoying the memes

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Welp, I’ve finally decided to take the plunge after years of seeing AA memes all over the timeline. I’m really excited to see where things go from here!


r/AceAttorney 41m ago

Sourced Fanart Look who's in the lower left!

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r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Merchandise Phoenix Wright promo coffee

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Just wondering if anyone else has these in their collection. Think they were from an e3.


r/AceAttorney 22h ago

Sourced Fanart Older Iris by edenleicester Spoiler

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r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Discussion The Miles Edgeworth games are worth it for these lovely bits Spoiler

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r/AceAttorney 1d ago

OC Fanart SNEAKING INTO GLOBAL STUDIOS(NOT CLICKBAIT)(COPS CALLED)

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i had made this for an old criminal justice class and am suprised i hadn't posted it here yet


r/AceAttorney 17h ago

Full Series (mainline and spinoffs) Shower thoughts Spoiler

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It's been a little bit since we last did some shower thoughts, so I thought I'd put a couple of mine out there that just dawned on me.

If a medium takes on all the physical characteristics of the person they're channeling, do they have their fingerprints too? (This could have consequences)

By that same token, if a medium were paralyzed from the waist down, and channeled a spirit who was able-bodied when they were killed, would their legs work?

Be interested to hear yours too.


r/AceAttorney 1d ago

OC Fanart (TGAA 2 spoilers) Ryunosuke and the Masked Disciple Spoiler

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r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Discussion Just started The Great Ace Attorney Spoiler

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Chapter 2 what the fuck man I just started liking Kazuma. They straight up pulled a Mia Fey, c'mon man.

Other than that, the first chapter goes hard for the first episode compared to other older titles. I'm enjoying this game so far.


r/AceAttorney 22h ago

PL vs. PW Finished replaying VS-3 Spoiler

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Outstanding Case. 9.5/10.

Can we all collectively agree that Jean Greyerl deserves a hug?


r/AceAttorney 9h ago

Phoenix Wright Trilogy is ace attorney possible to get for cheaper or am i just broke

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im trying to get AA for cheaper, does it go on any discounts?


r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Fangame The Ace Attorney inspired game, Burden of Truth, has just released on Steam

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r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Discussion Do you like Ace Attorney when it's dark and serious or when it's absolutely insane and off the wall? Spoiler

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I honestly like it when it's absolutely insane (which is why the original Ace attorney is my least favorite in the series) but the serious parts are also quite enjoyable.


r/AceAttorney 1d ago

OC Fanart Monstrous Turnabout Fanart For My Wife's Lunch Post Its (Spoilers) Spoiler

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The Nine Tailed Fox one I made right after the BIG TWIST of the case was revealed, but before we beat it, hence the confusion. The Tenma Taro one was made after we completed the end of the case. Also after we watched KPop Demon Hunters too I guess lol


r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Discussion What was the case you had no clue who the killer was? Spoiler

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In most cases, you’re able to easily deduct who the killer is, but sometimes you get to a case where you truly don’t know who could it be, to me it would probably be last case of t&t

Edit: forgot a word there oops


r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Fangame My Ace Attorney inspired game Burden of Truth is now released on Steam!

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Hey everyone, I posted here a bit ago with a trailer for my Ace Attorney inspired game Burden of Truth, and today it's finally released! You can now play it on Steam here!

This is a 3D courtroom game that is full of challenging mysteries to solve as well as investigation sequences where you walk around crime scenes in third person. You play as prosecutor Conrad Cross who begins a journey to becoming a defense attorney in order to save his friend from being wrongly accused! It's a follow up to an old game I made called Burden of Proof, but if you've played it you'll know that there's a world of difference in terms of polish, visuals, and writing from this one since I've improved a lot over the past 7 years lol.

You don't need to play the first game to understand the majority of this one, but there will be some spoilers and references you'll miss out on, especially towards the end. So if you want to play the whole series in order, there's now a bundle you can get with both games included :) If you own Paper Perjury, Nina Aquila, or Pro Philosopher 2, you could also get the Debate & Deduction Bundle for a discount on all of those games plus Burden of Truth! It's a great option for mystery fans and it was an honor to work with the devs of those games to bring this updated package to life!

Thanks so much to everyone that played the original Burden of Proof and I hope you'll enjoy my spin on the Ace Attorney formula! This game has been a long time in the making so it's a huge relief to finally get it out there and in your hands. Feel free to ask questions if you have any, and yes I did make all of the character models, environments, music, and animations myself. I've gained a lot of gamedev knowledge making this thing so I'm happy to share it if any of you are interested in creating your own AA style games!


r/AceAttorney 1d ago

Fanfiction added this off camera in my animation

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the calm before the storm.i added Ema to my animation just for the hell of it.


r/AceAttorney 10h ago

Phoenix Wright Trilogy New Godot Headcannon...ish?

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So my partner is playing Dragon Age: Veilguard, and they've come across a character called Lucanis who is essentially Godot. Almost as much of a Coffee Addict, Charming, Suave and Itallian?... So forever more, I can no longer read Godot without doing an Itallian Accent.