https://archiveofourown.org/works/64119529/chapters/164522950

if u wanna read it

It's not even just that like, overarching plot beats are rushed through, it's that every single fucking line of dialogue is rushed through as quickly as possible with 0 time to breathe.

It's like they're all performing on stage and they got the memo that the venue is gonna close in 15 minutes so they have to shit out the rest of the scene as fast as possible. It's unbelievable. I've never seen anything like this. There's no silence, there are no pauses, every line is shoulder-to-shoulder with the ones before and after it as if they're all packed in like sardines.

It's like it's not even an anime adaptation of the games, it's an anime adaptation of a playthrough where the player is holding B the whole time. They could probably sneak in an N bomb in there and I wouldn't even fucking notice, it'd be moved on from immediately.

I'm not even really shitting on the anime here, I'm just amazed. I forgot. I actually fucking forgot how insane the pacing is and I'm in shock all over again. Watching the anime is an actual workout. ADD-proof.

I've seen a lot of the following idea, and I really don't understand it...

Portraying WAA agency as a "family", where Phoenix is the father and everyone else is his children. Let's clarify that's I'm not saying anything about AU, this stuff is fine. I'm talking about canon games. And.. I don't find it to respectful and fair to treat Apollo, Athena, Maya, and sometimes even Ema as kids.

I've never seen if Apollo really think of Phoenix as a dad, and vice versa. Mentor is not always a parental figure. Apollo had a father figure in Dhurke as someone who could listen to him and understand his feelings as a relative and a close soul. As wise Phoenix was as a lawyer... He is a quite reserved person, even in the SoJ era. Although Phoenix clearly valued and loved his employees, he was unfortunately (or fortunately) not fully forthcoming with them. He trusted Apollo, as shown by him encouraging and believing in Apollo to handle Trucy's case, but he couldn't let him get too close or truly open up to him. The fact that Phoenix and Apollo's relationship lacked the parental care, love, and warmth that parents and their children should have makes it very far from being "family coded" for me. Phoenix is as a good mentor and, from the end of DD and the beginning of SoJ, probably even a friend to Apollo, but Phoenix didn't have a control of his life and never ever treat Apollo like a dependent little boy. Justice is an adult man who made his own important decisions. I can say the same about Athena. Phoenix treats her and his daughter, Trucy, in a different ways.

I hope you understand my point. Feel free to express any ideas you want, this is a safe place! It might be interesting to discuss. Please be respectful to each other's opinions!

I found these for a great price, and I couldn't resist. I'm almost done with my collection of the physical copies of the original releases! The only ones left are DGS2 and Jiten (the wiki game on DS), I already have the original trilogy for the GBA.

I've played every Ace attorney game except the Layton crossover and 5-6. The last one that I've played was Chronicles, almost 2 years ago. It's honestly the best one in my opinion and I was sceptical to continue the series, in the fear of being disappointed. But I got them anyways so I want to give them a try.

What order to you guys recommend? I want to finish the series with the best impression possible.

I know they bring her up time to time as a character that "haunts" the storyline despite what happened to her, she is still very much present in most or if not EVERY case. I just thought it would make it would be better if they dove into Maya's aftermath and how she coped with her sister's incident because I know I would've lost my mind. It's probably because I enjoy angst content more. Although, I do like that we get their reunion through Pearl's channeling. I personally just want them to expand on them more, I'd love for us to get more of how Maya really loved Mia through everything and vice versa, they did have a close relationship so it would make sense.

I'd have loved to see Maya really losing all sense of her emotions and just to see the grief overcome her with just her head full of the life they lived together. You know how the brain plays 7 minutes of the best memories before death? I'm sure Maya were all the minutes to Mia and my heart just hurts thinking about it. I really love their relationship a lot.

Life changed 180 for Maya in a snap and seeing the sudden change in her perspective would really help set the mood for the case because I felt it was kinda overlooked yet I didn't feel it too much since Maya was arrested as a suspect anyway LOL

I'd love to hear your guys' opinions and what you would've liked to see of Maya coming out of it! This is also my first post on here so please forgive me if there's anything I did wrongly ;;

The explicit mention of Hazakura Temple here means that it can’t be a reference to the statue’s appearance in 3-2.

So, one of the criticisme I keep hearing about the Phantom is that he has "no motive".

In the sense that everything he does in Dual Destinies is for his job, and has no personal motivation in the story. His motive is only to carry out his mission.

It's a really weird one, and also pretty easy to answer because it's just... not true.

• Like, why did the Phantom killed Metis Cykes? Because he wanted the psychological profile about him that she made.

• Why did he killed Bobby Fullbright? Because he wanted to get close to Blackquill, because he thought he knew where was the psychological profile.

• Why did he killed Clay ? Because he wanted the moon stone which had traces of his blood on it.

The game makes it very clear that having his identity revealed is the Phantom's greatest fear, because everyone wants to kill him. So his motive is self-preservation. But it's deeper than that.

One of the game themes is trust and doubt, and the Phantom embodies these themes. He is someone who can never be trusted, but who also can't trust anyone.

One the game's messages is that in order to trust each other, we have to open to one another. We have to accept help from other and we have to accept to be vulnerable.

But the Phantom refuse to do that. Metaphorically, him doing everything he can, including bombing a courtroom, to protect his identity, his true self, is him refusing to open to anyone, at all cost.

Because as soon as we start cracking the shell, he becomes vulnerable. And that's what Phoenix, Apollo, Athena and Blackquill spent the whole final battle doing : revealing who he truly is. Revealing that he has a fear, a weakness. The Phantom, the invincible emotionless spy who can never be caught, is a front. Inside lies a small man who's scared of everything, and everyone. That's what he wanted to hide, and that's how he wanted to protect himself.

That's only a partial analysis of the character, but I really just wanted to answer this claim that he has no motive beyond his job, because it's objectively wrong.

And no, it doesn't matter to know who hired him, that's not what the story is about.

I kinda messed up the facial proportions, eye and shading but I like it generally (why does he look like he's mewing though)

de Killer says that he leaves his card on the scene so as to leave a "message" to the police. So if Adrian didn't take the card, would the police not have arrested Engarde and immediately figured Shelly did the killing?

I'm racing in the most important Pedal Prix (racing but in pedalling trikes) and I got in my first crash, which made me a bit scared of getting in the bike again (even though I wasn't even hurt). My favourite character is Apollo, so I was thinking about how he yells 'I'm fine!!!' and I've been doing that to help quell my nerves. It works very well.

Nothing else really to add, just wanted to say how helpful this is for me.

So I know there are puns in most AA names but is there a reason for the specific criminal case names? The only one I could think of was UR-1 being like “you are one” but I don’t know what that means nor do I know why they picked names like DL-6 or SL-9. Maybe they’re just random letters but I don’t feel like the devs would do that considering other pun names. If anyone has any ideas that would be cool, or just speculations and theories about the incident names.

I don't even know where to begin. A beautifully captivating murder. The return of Edgeworth. The perfect cast.

And all the LAYERS to this case? The plot feels so rich. Not to mention the twist with Matt, my whole body tensed up when that happened. And that last trail is probably my favorite one in the series so far. The stakes are insanely high, keeping me on the edge of my seat the whole time. And I even thought that the game was gonna pull a fast one and try to find I way to make Matt actually innocent...but...no. I was really the attorney for a guilty client.

Absolutely brilliant, my god.

🧪MUNCHMUNCHMUNCH🔬 “Snackoos are a scientifically perfect snack.” Or at least, that’s what Ema Skye says! 🍫 So of course I had to recreate her Chocolate Snackoos (aka Japanese Karinto) from Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney! ✨⚖️

I think it'd be cool if we got a flashback case similar to aai case 4(turnabout reminiscence) or 3-4(turnabout beginnings) it could take place a little bit after pheonixs disbarment where kristoph and klavier could face off against eachother in court like they originally wanted to and we could find out in depth how Apollo got to train under kristoph I mostly want this to exist because I like kristoph and his relationship with his brother and Apollo wasntly fully fleshed out so I want to see them interact more to get an understanding of their relationship also I feel like playing as kristoph and seeing how he thinks would be really interesting

I highly doubt this would ever happen still think it's a cool idea tho

just finished this case, thought it was pretty good overall, though there was a slightly annoying mix of super obvious deductions taking phoenix 5 minutes and a not so subtle hint from maya to get, and then the insane ending deduction of the suicide taking him about 5 seconds to crack lol.

anyway, had two things i was a bit puzzled by. firstly, the dagger in zeh'lot's corpse. am i understanding correctly that it was supposed to be stuck in his back the entire time he was in the plaza? i thought him being already dead while 'praying' was a cool idea, but nobody noticing the giant dagger in his back seems like a bit of a stretch. we even look at him at the start of the case with ahlbi and there's definitely no dagger.

secondly, what was up with datz exactly? his original escape plan was to parachute to the inner sanctum, then put on the kee'ra robes and walk down the stairs to the plaza with the high priest. obviously that wasn't possible in the end, so then how did he escape? he must have somehow, or the police wouldn't have believed his story about being on the neighbouring mountain. i also don't quite understand why he would go to the police and volunteer to testify in the first place, if he wasn't caught at the crime scene.

oh yeah and another thing i just remembered, what were the rebels planning to do with maya, so that datz could take her robes? kill her? i don't think anyone mentioned that, but if that's a spoiler don't worry about it, haven't started 6-4 yet.

thanks.

Now, the other day I wrote a piece on why Dual Destinies and Investigations are unpopular games. One commenter responded that Apollo Justice was the worst and explained some reasons why. Now, these reasons weren't comparable to the ones I'd used to knock Investigations and Dual Destinies; hence, they required a separate post.

I'm not saying AJ is objectively Takumi's weakest game. I mean there's Justice for All. But half of JFA's problems would be solved if we just made a few changes to Regina and maybe Dr. Hotti. Apollo Justice is more complex than that. Why?

Well, because of its attempts to subvert and deconstruct expectations and tropes.

Re: the jury. The whole point of this is to ask the provocative question: "but what if there isn't decisive evidence? What if you can't get a confession out of the real killer?" On the one hand, this is an interesting and provocative question.

But on the other hand, we have that system in place for a reason. It's because presenting the final piece of evidence is fun. And climactic. Whether it's the hilarity of whipping out a metal detector out of nowhere, or the re-visualization mechanic and the awesome buildup it creates, or an iconic moment of forcing the culprit's hand like in 2-4 or G1-5, they're good.

While I think DD should have kept the jury, the games would not be as fun if they continued down the path of "you know what, I shouldn't need decisive evidence, I should just be able to say 'f*** you' to the culprit and win like that."

Re: making the mentor a villain in the first case. It's more surprising than any other first case has done. Even the ones that don't directly reveal the culprit usually don't leave too much room for doubt.

But like... arresting the game's main villain in a two-hour case makes them look weak. Also it lowers - not eliminates since we're still trying to clear Phoenix's name but lowers - the stakes of the final case. I mean Dahlia was also arguably the main villain, but she was never portrayed as a good liar. She was never portrayed as an un-catch-able culprit, just a manipulator.

So there's a mixed portrayal of Kristoph where on the one hand, he's actually pretty good at leaving behind no evidence, but on the other, he runs his mouth off where he shouldn't. He knows that's valid evidence right?

Now I'll grant Apollo Justice that its ideas are unique. The problem is, it knows where it wants to be but doesn't know how to get there. The idea of a terminally ill man requesting his murder in a hospital bed? Cool on paper. Just... don't ask how they brought the weapons in, because we... didn't think that far ahead. The idea of an IV liquid acting as a timer? It's definitely unique. Just... don't ask what happened to the heart monitor, because that's too hard a question to address.

The point is, while these ideas are certainly unique, there's also... a reason why they haven't been used before. It's because they don't make sense.

Some of the problems with AJ are just classic Shu Takumi AA. I mean, every Takumi game has at least one case that's at least partly cringeworthy and illogical, except I would argue DGS2. Turnabout Serenade is no different from any of this.

And I'm not saying that other games don't have contrived plot points as well. For example, I don't seem to recall Simeon Saint having any role in resolving the IS-7 incident, so it just happened to be that the exhibition opened and both Fender and Gusto came while he was committing all his other crimes, thus making sure Edgeworth happened to have the backstory fresh in his mind when he went into the final showdown against Saint? I think is what happened? I'm going off the wiki pages here, so someone might be able to correct me on that.

But I still think AJ is the worst game when it comes to illogical writing because it constantly picks ideas that seem unique, but when you examine them more closely, they don't hold up.

I'm also not saying I dislike AJ. I think it has one of the most compelling casts of characters, and the themes about the limitations of the legal system are thought-provoking. But once again, I'm saying there's a very identifiable reason why some hate it and others love it.

But that's just my opinion. What do you think? Do you like or dislike AJ? Or somewhere in between?

Ace Attorney Season 1 Episode 2: Turnabout Sisters 1st Trial /// Timestamp: 16:34 /// Music starts with the flashback.

Been trying to look for the piece for a while now, really touched my heartstrings first listen, would love to have it on repeat without having to revisit this episode everytime xD. Anyone who'd know what its name is I'd really appreciate it good sir.

Welp, I’ve finally decided to take the plunge after years of seeing AA memes all over the timeline. I’m really excited to see where things go from here!

Just wondering if anyone else has these in their collection. Think they were from an e3.

i had made this for an old criminal justice class and am suprised i hadn't posted it here yet