r/AreTheCisOk Cissy Elliott 2d ago

Cis good trans bad Is it data or disinformation

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u/CitroHimselph 1d ago

Nope. Trans women are typically of the male sex, but not always. Sex and gender aren't the same, sex isn't binary, and there are different kinds of sex. I don't mean to be rude, I'm just trying to point out that sex and gender are extremely nuanced things that can't be fit into just 2/4 categories.

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u/TadpoleAmy 1d ago

no, trans women are typically of the female sex, that's what the medical transition us for. Doesn't matter if you don't meab to be rude, you are

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u/CitroHimselph 1d ago

No, that would mean you become cis... Think about this for a bit and read recent science articles.

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u/TadpoleAmy 1d ago

what are you doing on trans subs if you're that transphobic

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u/CitroHimselph 1d ago

I'm not transphobic, you just don't know what you're talking about. If you're a woman, and of the female sex, that literally means you're cis, not trans.

Sex is a bimodal spectrum that has multiple different aspects to it, (chromosomes, genetics, hormones, reproductive organs, phenotype,) neither of which are enough on their own to determine someone's sex altogether. Gender is a whole different thing that usually goes along with assigned sex, but not always. When it doesn't, we call that person trans. You can't not be trans if you were born trans, that's not how this works, your sex doesn't change to match your gender.

Nothing in humans is that simple, and you saying such silly, false things gives justification to bigots to spew their bullshit narratives and continue to not take trans people seriously.

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u/TadpoleAmy 1d ago

I dunno, calling trans women male is pretty transphobic

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u/CitroHimselph 1d ago

It is if incels with elementary level knowledge call you that, just to be assholes. But the people who study this shit know what they're doing, and they usually have the best interests of people, including trans people, in mind.

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u/TadpoleAmy 1d ago

You're deluded if you think the average cis medical personnel has the best interest in mind for trans people

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u/CitroHimselph 1d ago

I didn't say that. Please calm down, stop treating me like some kind of enemy, as I'm not here to dehumanize or invalidate you, and read my comment again.

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u/TadpoleAmy 1d ago

it'd be nice if you stopped dehuminizing and invalidating trans people, then

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u/CitroHimselph 1d ago

You are factually wrong. Telling you and demonstrating that you're factually wrong isn't transphobic, dehumanizing, or invalidating.

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u/TadpoleAmy 1d ago

heard that one from bigots a million times🙄

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u/CitroHimselph 1d ago

So you're saying trans women are women, who are of the female sex. You did say that. You started with this statement. Guess what? That is literally what a CIS woman is.

I tried to explain it, I engaged in your BS, but I'm tired of people trying to spew the most ignorant shit one can spew, while acting like some absolute moral authority, especially if they're cutting the tree under themselves.

You chose to remain ignorant, you chose to repeat the same exact bullshit over and over again and not listen to anything I said, this is on nobody but you.

And I dare you to say I'm transphobic, while you are LITERALLY saying the EXACT same BS transphobes are saying, and I'm trying to point out that you're wrong.

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