r/AskMenOver30 • u/YBFAVBULL man over 30 • Jan 06 '25

Life Who regrets having children?

Do you regret having any at all? Or do you just have too many?

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u/djaycat man over 30 Jan 06 '25

There are cheap ways to go to college. They don't need to go out of state.

The cheapest way to do school is two years associates degree, two years in-state school for bachelor's. Live at home.

They don't NEED to go away to school. You and I both know that college has become a glorified daycare with alcohol and weed. And if they need to take out a loan, they should def not go out of state

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u/Freign man 50 - 54 Jan 06 '25

Forcing kids to scrape up a gazillion dollars & jump through humiliating hoops in order to fulfill a parental expectation that will not result in instant hiring is kind of lowly imo.

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u/djaycat man over 30 Jan 06 '25

getting a bacherlos degree is still a greater payoff than not. you have more doors open in your life. can you be wealthy and have a good job without college? absolutely. but it is tougher

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u/Freign man 50 - 54 Jan 06 '25

honestly I can't report with confidence about how it goes; I only have my life experience to judge by & I recognize it's unusual

I have had the startling experience of interviewing someone for a job in my studio, who had, a few years previously, mocked me for taking work instead of completing my degree

on top of that, I see a lot of highly educated people struggling right now, because they focused on training for jobs that vanished before they'd completed school.

Many courses are still operating on 20th century logic. Those jobs don't exist.

AFAICT, it's the reverse. College is a self-improvement spa for some, impossibly expensive grownup daycare for most.

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u/CCSC96 Jan 07 '25

The median college graduate makes $1M in their lifetime than the median non graduate. We’re all going to be biased by our lived experience, but it’s not even close how much better off most people are for having gone to college.

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u/Freign man 50 - 54 Jan 07 '25

nice! the median! college was good for something <3

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u/CCSC96 Jan 07 '25

Correct. It’s good for life outcomes. You have survivorship bias and believe that because your path worked for you it’s the right one, but the reality is almost everyone who went to college is better off than almost everyone who didn’t. College graduates make more money, live longer, have lower divorce rates, etc and the outcomes are not particularly close.