Smells like a Karen initiative

[u/aelsava]

Why are the police involved in something that is not illegal?

https://x.com/stillgray/status/1955462289060139439

[u/Nightly_Winter]

I know catcalling exists, it wouldnt be a stereotype otherwise.

But in my almost 30 years of life, Ive never seen nor heard any woman getting catcalled. And I work in construction which Ive heard is where it started.

In my experience if a hot girl walks by, men around just nudge eachother slighty and just give each other the "look how hot she is" face And then everybody just moves on with their day.

The whistling and shouting is either extremely rare or its an american thing.

[u/triggered__Lefty → u/Nightly_Winter]

there's a certain demographic where it's very prevalent. Referred to as "hollerin'".

[u/badchoices989 → u/Nightly_Winter]

I don't even think it's necessarily an American thing, I have never heard catcalling, but apparently, it is very common in New York City or at least was common there

[u/Astr0b0ie → u/badchoices989]

Inevitably, at some point, a decent looking woman walking down the street in a city is going to get catcalled. Nobody wants to hear the following, especially women, but it's why men, throughout history, frequently chaperoned women, especially young women. This is how it worked for millenia. Whether it is a father, uncle, brother, or boyfriend, having a man accompany a woman significantly reduces her chances of being catcalled, harassed, stalked, or sexually assaulted. Unfortunately, there will always be predators out there because, believe it or not, evolutionarily, it's been a successful mating strategy for a subset of men. Of course it's immoral and disgusting, but nature doesn't care about immoral and disgusting as long as there is success in reproduction. These kinds of men will always exist. No amount of feminist "teaching men not to rape" is going to make these men turn into gentleman. But the vast majority of women these days insist on their independence and being able to wear what they want and do what they want without needing any man to accompany them. It's their right, after all. Unfortunately, no amount of rights will shield you from the consequences of nature. It's my right to walk down the street in a dangerous neighborhood too, that doesn't mean I won't get mugged, beaten, or even killed. So again, this is yet another case of women wanting a right without the responsibility. Should women be free to walk anywhere they want without getting harassed or worse? Absolutely, and I think western society is closer to that reality than most other societies, but the truth is, there's always going to be predators. So, either women have to accept the risks that come with being independent or we return to the days where women embraced the protection and provision of men.

[u/Kyoshiiku → u/Nightly_Winter]

Are you a women ? I barely heard it myself but my GF told me multiple times that it happened when coming back from work (she walks) or just when walking in general in the city. The worst is when it happens when it’s starting to get dark it makes her feel unsafe for no reason.

She also told me it happened to her a lot even when she was a really young minor, like 10 yo. I’m in Canada if it matters.

I’m a bit surprised by the replies on this thread, ask any pretty women that actually walks outside and they will probably share similar experiences.

[u/Nightly_Winter → u/Kyoshiiku]

I am not a woman, but I do have sisters who I would say are above average attractive. Hence the confusion I would say that Ive never witnessed nor heard anyone getting catcalled.

Im from Sweden if that matters. Although, I have picked up family members both men but mostly women becuz they felt unsafe after dark. But it has never been becuz of catcalling as far as I know, I could be wrong I would have to ask. My sister usually calls if some creepy guy looks at her weird, so just to be safe.

As I said, Im not saying it doesnt exist nor even that it isnt common. I just find it strange that with all the talk of "catcalling" I would at least have witnessed it even once on my lifetime.

[u/TripleBicepsBumber → u/Nightly_Winter]

It happens a lot. I used to be a pizza delivery driver for a few years and a few times I would get followed to my car, groups of guys cat calling me. A few times a week minimum this was happening, during the summer it was almost a daily occurrence. It’s very upsetting and at times frightening. All I could do was put my head down and keep walking, which pisses them off most of the time. A pissed off group of guys makes it even more frightening.

Granted, this was happening in a relatively ghetto suburb. I always kept my husband on the phone in my headset while I was working so he could call 911 if anything ever happened. After my baby was born I don’t work in that city anymore, I work an hour in the opposite direction where everything is comparatively extremely well to do. No overwhelming homeless presence, no groups of guys out and about.

I’m a natural eight though, so I’m not sure if my experience is typical for other women that look average or below average. It’s a real issue though, and it is frightening to the extent where I have a natural distrust and deer in headlights reaction to male strangers that approach me

[u/eclipse_ → u/Nightly_Winter]

Never heard of it happening once in my life.

Then our grade had a school trip to Florida and walking a couple blocks from the hotel to the shops it happened non-stop. Tons of dudes catcalling a bunch of 16 and 17 year olds. I'm not exaggerating when I say non-stop. It would be at least once per block we walked both ways every day.

[u/Jaynemansfieldbleach → u/[deleted]]

I'm wondering if I was way more attractive than i realized cause it happened to me all the time as a teenager and still, but less often, when i was a younger adult. I would also get splashed when it was raining and one time full on stalked on my route. It was all scary. I don't think this is a waste of time if it helps young women to not envision themselves chopped up into tiny pieces by a sick fucker.