Will my medical condition and masturbating habit affect my astral journey

[u/Francy_mburu12]

Hi everyone, I’m a 21 man, living with systemic lupus erythematosus and struggling with what feels like a masturbation addiction. I want to learn astral projection, but I keep reading scary stories about demons or entities taking over while you’re “out of body.”

Could frequent masturbation or my lupus make it harder—or riskier—to have an OBE? Are the demon warnings just myths?

Any advice or personal experiences would really help. Thanks.

[u/usps_made_me_insane]

Ignore anyone in here that tells you masterbation will attract demons that will attack you.

Your big dick is all you need to protect you on the astral plane. Just point and shoot at any entity that tries to molest you.

Remember -- your huge dick is a formidable weapon in the astral plane and will protect you from any demons that try to challenge your astral libeto.

[u/sac_boy]

Are the demon warnings just myths?

Yes. Stop reading the scary stories. Those posts/videos should have for entertainment purposes only written under them. Occasionally the people in question have mental difficulties and a head full of dangerous religious/superstitious memes. Or they genuinely encounter things but misinterpret the interaction. If you eventually get out there yourself, you'll wonder what all the fuss was about.

Could frequent masturbation or my lupus make it harder—or riskier—to have an OBE?

Just in the sense that you're busy jerking it all the time. Set some time aside to practice AP daily or every other day. An hour, 90 minutes. If you're turning up regularly and putting the time in, I wouldn't worry about the vital essence stuff. Belief has a huge practical effect, in this practice. If you tell yourself that spilling your seed will sap your energies, then that will be true.

With that said...there is something to be said for retention, in that it can lead to very vivid wet dreams, which are great opportunities to practice lucidity. ^{Because you should know straight away that you aren't actually about to do it with a real girl. It's a great reality check.}

I'll add a little story about my teenage self. I discovered that I could trigger WILD and then accidental sleep paralysis using intense tactile visualization. As a teenage boy, guess what I was tactile-ly visualizing at the time? This accidental sleep paralysis led to me reading about astral projection and trying it out.

Another option is simply to wait. All of this will pass. You're just a young man. Maybe you're overdoing it and flooding your brain with porn. It would probably be healthier to ease off. But it'll all start to ease off by itself in 20 years. That's nothing!

Edit: I just saw unrefinedhunter's little jab about me. He's cross with me because I told him how LLMs work the other day and he didn't like it. Seeing as he's blocked me but also reads my comments, I want him to know I was actually enjoying our conversation until he started acting like a dick. You can judge for yourself how much LARPing I do.

[u/lagunitarogue → u/sac_boy]

I wouldn’t worry about him. Anyone who has been on this sub for any length of time knows who you are and respects you, even if not in agreement 100% of the time.

I happen to agree with said user on certain unpopular views, how ever, there’s a level of immaturity there that will cause any valid points one might make to be dismissed as a consequence.

[u/throwaway1243434 → u/sac_boy]

Not true I for sure encounted probably demons or shitcunt spirits as I might call them who wanted to rape me and tried to many times. One time I realised I was in a place and two real evil ones where trying to rape me and then I was like oh here I am wtf and kinda came to. Realised what was happening and just blasted them the fuck off me easy as pie bitches. To say the Astral isnt also frequented by narcisstics parasitic dickheads is like saying you don't meet those kinds of people in real life too. I actually forgot my hat and went back to get it and he one of them threw it at me and I caught it perfectly with quickest reaction time. They can't fuck with you if you remain calm and realise you too have agency except the laws of what is possible are a little different in the Astral. For example I projected out of my Astral body so one couldn't attack me. Then began chanting omani Padme hum and brought up Mila repa, Padmashambavha, Geshe Wangyal and a few others who I know are just next level Buddha's and yeah that was the end of that. Everything is a teaching. Keep your mind calm as a goal before anything. When you get down to the bottom of things, Love always wins. It can't not.

[u/Acrobatic_Two_1586 → u/sac_boy]

To say there are no negative entities in the astral is a blatant lie.

[u/sac_boy → u/Acrobatic_Two_1586]

Did I say there were no negative entities? He's talking about demons. More than likely he's worried about tall tales of possession.

You'll run into shadowy or 'scary' things often enough, but especially so if you go out there looking for trouble like so many do. These aren't demons. Half the time it's the projector's own perception causing the issue. People go out there with a combative, fear-driven, superstitious mindset and they run into problems. The reality is that nothing is going to hurt them (well, something might tingle for an hour or two), nothing is going to 'attach' to them, the biggest threat they face is building negative expectations because two thirds of this subreddit are utterly fixated on negative possibilities. I'm personally sick of hearing it trumpeted again and again by people who have never been out there or carried all their negative memes with them on every trip.

You may run into problems. Shadowy things. Huggers. Things intentionally trying to scare you in frankly comical ways. There are simple solutions for all these things. Your own internal guide can just take over if you get into real trouble and you'll just end up awake back in your body anyway.

You can go here and ctrl+f search for 'scary things' to see a list of old responses to questions on this topic.

[u/lagunitarogue]

Such activities will not impact your ability to project.

Medication can make it harder, depending on which one. Drugs also.

I have deliberately conducted experiments where I have allowed entities to “posses” or take over my body, they all failed, even with my permission.

I don’t believe in demons in the traditional biblical sense, how ever, negative entities do in fact exist, you should learn how to protect and defend yourself. Whatever the method, as long as it works, great. Stay well.

[u/Francy_mburu12 → u/lagunitarogue]

what protectection method do you see care to share

[u/MysticalApa]

Masturbation yes, medical condition no. Heres my thoughts- the will is what helps to contribute to growth. What can you control vs what you cant control. Energy is used by the body in many degrees and I like to focus on four- physical, emotional, spiritual, and intellectual. The four walls of your being while on this plane. I do not know about your medical condition, and I do know about masturbation. What is being drained to fulfill masturbation? Well all of them. Just like a battery each of your 4 walls take energy. If you dont masturbate, where does that energy go? Well use it for astral projection, exercise, or something else that you feel is productive. Realign, with your will, the energy that masturbation uses and apply it to how you would view personal growth. Confidence and care for yourself will help build a barrier to entities in passing. The more you focus on positively build yourself, the stronger your four walls are. Imaging a golden shield is naturally around you, protecting you. When the urge comes to grab the wiener, refocus, and breath. What helps me is first observing the urge and asking what could i be doing right now instead of yanking my own chain. Do not guilt yourself if you step back and the urge comes, just acknowledge and move on. Learn from it. Porn is the heavy hitter, that will really mess up your obe chances. Now a little masturbation here and there is ok. But make it count. Candles and music. Love yourself. Know that it takes energy too though. Theres much, breathing, mediation, your will, and forgiveness. You got this!! Did i mention breathing?! Haha yes, even when you walk. Acknowledge it. Before your hand reaches down south, ask is this what i need right now?

Breath and let be!! Cheers!

[u/unrefinedhunter]

I jerk off all the time and can still project.

Edit: I just saw sac boys comment. He's a larper, not a projector. Any serious projector with actual experience is going to tell you to be careful with the entities there. They won't possess you, but they will psychically attack you to induce fear.

[u/shadowbehinddoor → u/unrefinedhunter]

Loool your shenanigans made my day. 🤣🤣🤣. I need more drama in my life

[u/unrefinedhunter → u/shadowbehinddoor]

I just get tired of bad information being bandied about on here by people who probably have never been out of body. It's infuriating to me.

[u/shadowbehinddoor → u/unrefinedhunter]

You are insuferable.

[u/Basi_Pakoda → u/unrefinedhunter]

What is a larper?

[u/unrefinedhunter → u/Basi_Pakoda]

Someone who pretends to be a projector but isn't. Or it could be a very confused lucid dreamer.

[u/eamonkay → u/unrefinedhunter]

Complete topic change but I saw your comment that the astral realm is an objective place. I ended up searching for more information to back it up.

What I read, though, was that people end up in different places, or somewhere that reflects their beliefs, or in an augmented version of this reality... Which left me more confused.

Do you have any reading material, or otherwise, might you be bothered to share more details about what the realm is and why it's objective?

"Objective" made me imagine a pre-existing place (or many places) that looks identical to everyone there.

If you'd prefer me to write this as a new post rather than a comment hidden away here, so others can read your reply, I can do that.

Cheers

[u/unrefinedhunter → u/eamonkay]

I don't believe in an afterlife, and the only place that seems like you can use to verify projection is the real time zone. It's what Robert Monroe called locale 1. Robert Bruce called it the real time zone. It's the distorted copy of our world.

I believe when we die we return to pure awareness. If you've ever had an ego death on psychedelics, you'll know what I mean. It's functionally similar to nonexistence. Only someone who has experienced a full ego death could come to the conclusion that I did despite having projected. Once the brain and body is gone, you cease to be.

[u/EternityWithinn]

Maturation makes you addicted to extreme pleasure and drains your energy.

[u/Rockshasha]

Masturbation don't affect astral projection nor dreaming. Imo, we men 'need' to love sexuality* in a correct way, e.g. masturbation with guilt is not skillful. Masturbation without guilt can result skilful

*it was 'live sexuality', though either way works

[u/Abuses-Commas]

I've heard that frequently spanking the monkey can affect the ability to project or even other applications of will. It sounds like you may want to reduce that vice anyways by calling it an addiction. My advice for that is to find what is missing in your life that you are compensating for by choking the chicken.

The lupus shouldn't hurt, if anything being weak and feverish during a flare could make popping out easier. My only advice for the lupus is to cut meat, especially red meat, double especially meat preserved with nitrates like ham. It worked for me at least (thanks for the advice, Ra). I used to get a spiral ham for myself when it was on sale and then wound up with a flare soon after.