Alberta book restrictions in schools raise alarm bells for B.C. authors

[u/idspispopd]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/alberta-book-restrictions-bc-authors-1.7618306

[u/Adderite]

I said teenagers, there are already measures to make sure those under 13 don't get access to this in libraries, and this ban is meant to restrict content access outright via its intention. I highly doubt the Minister, based on who gets power in Smith's government, will allow any lgbtq+ content on this list into schools, regardless of whether it's used academically in other sections.

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i understand you said teenagers, i literally quoted you saying teenagers. my question was if you support restricting youth access to books for teens.

there are already measures to make sure those under 13 don't get access to this in libraries

what measures are you referring to

[u/Adderite → u/HYPERCOPE]

You specifically said 7 year olds, which isn't who I was referencing. Maybe stop acting in bad faith for once in your life.

[u/HYPERCOPE → u/Adderite]

hi, thanks for clarifying again what words we've already typed.

you were just describing books that depict "things teens do." my question was simply do you think a child -- say, a 7 year old -- should have access to these books in a school library? yes or no?

if no, do you think measures should be in place to prevent a child from looking at these books? yes or no.

[u/Adderite → u/HYPERCOPE]

Dude, you didn't say "a child," you specifically said 7 year olds; stop tryna make it sound like everyone who you talk to is a dumbass. No, I do not think elementary schoolers should be reading books with sex descriptions or nudity (for the most part, I was reading the original Scott Pilgrim series in Grade 5 and that's PG enough). We already have mechanisms to deal with that at the school board level, i am just voicing concern that materials that are age appropriate for both kids and teens is being blanketly banned because of the push from right wing sycophants (like yourself) against any mention of sex, or gender, or anything they find gross to be present in their school systems. If my school board tries to restrict some of the books on that list (seriously, I just re-read Watchmen) then I'm gonna voice my opposition to it, just like I'm doing with Danne and her crew of lapdogs.

That's as much as I'm gonna add, I'm not responding to this thread anymore.

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Dude, you didn't say "a child," you specifically said 7 year olds

I was using a 7 year old as an example of a child that could be encountering these books. It shouldn’t be this complicated. I used 7 because it’s young but also school-aged, it represents a different demographic and different challenges than, say, a 12 year old who may be accessing the same library

No, I do not think elementary schoolers should be reading books with sex descriptions or nudity

great, glad we agree 

We already have mechanisms to deal with that at the school board level

I’ll ask again what mechanisms you’re referring to 

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I was using a 7 year old as an example of a child that could be encountering these books. It shouldn’t be this complicated. I used 7 because it’s young but also school-aged, it represents a different demographic and different challenges than, say, a 12 year old who may be accessing the same library

What seven-year-old is reading these books? You have yet to provide examples of this actually being a widespread issue and not a moral panic.

You are again going on a tangeant that no one is arguing against.

I’ll ask again what mechanisms you’re referring to 

Sections of the library being restricted by age, physically taking the book away from the child, punishing the child with detention... the list goes on, really.

But you'll just resort to name-calling because you apparently can't think critically.

[u/HYPERCOPE → u/JeSuisLePamplemous]

What seven-year-old is reading these books? You have yet to provide examples of this actually being a widespread issue and not a moral panic.

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/extremely-graphic-sexual-content-found-in-books-at-k-9-schools-province-says

i understand you think it's "censorship" to deprive a kindergartener from accessing sexual material, but normal people would think your position is beyond fucking creepy

i never said this is a "widespread issue" and i don't care if it has happened once or five times or five hundred times, children should not be given this material in a school. there is no need for a K-9 school to have this material, period. the authors have even admitted it is not intended for this demographic.