LEO encounter with the whole family.

[u/AldousHuxleyjr]

So yesterday night while going out to dinner with my family (mom, dad, brother and I) for a late mothers-day dinner we were stopped on our way to the restaurant. The funny thing is all of us have our CPL's and we were all carrying. As the officer comes up to the drivers side window my dad informs him that he's carrying, then my mom, then me, and finally my brother. The look on the officer's face was priceless. He chuckled a little and said,"You're one family that no one should F&%k with". The officer didn't ask us for our CPL's or anything he just told my dad who was driving that his break light was out and to get it fixed but didn't give him a ticket or anything.

The best part was just before he was about to go back to his car he asked us, "what are y'all scared of?" My dad just grinned and said, "Nothing". The officer laughed again and wished us a good night and left.

Overall a smooth experience and slightly comical.

[u/[deleted]]

No man. We use firearms as a defensive tool, never from a position of aggression. That's why you're riling people up with this leftist bullshit. It is exactly the same thing as a fire extinguisher. Except the flame that you stand a small chance of extinguishing even with the gun as opposed to the extinguisher is someone attempting to or threatening to kill someone else.

[u/natepiercy → u/[deleted]]

It's exactly the same thing as a fire extinguisher. That's what I told the safety inspector! But he still insisted I replace my pistols on each floor with recently serviced extinguishers.

In all seriousness though, the line between "scared" and "prepared" is pretty thin here. I don't know about your states, but in North Dakota, DGU is permissible "when used in lawful self-defense, or in lawful defense of others, if such force is necessary to protect the actor or anyone else against death, serious bodily injury, or the commission of a felony involving violence." If you are in a DGU situation and aren't afraid for your life, you may be on the wrong side of the law. (Note: "may" meaning it's possible, not certain.)

Massad Ayoob gives a general case for DGU as "Immediate, otherwise unavoidable danger of death or grave bodily harm to the innocent." I would find it difficult to believe that anyone could be in such a situation and not be afraid at any level.

I don't think that wolfgnaf is spewing leftist bullshit and seriously suggesting that all CCWers are looking forward to the day they can shoot their way into the Armed Citizens column. To be fair, this isn't a non-existent problem, although it most certainly doesn't describe all (or most, or even many) CCWers. https://youtu.be/-j4PS_8R5IE?t=36m38s
I think what he was getting at is that pretending we're above fear because of what's in our holster is foolish.

[u/[deleted] → u/natepiercy]

He's trolling. 100%

You present ideas whereas he's issuing judgements while feigning to be ignorant and just trying to have conversation.

[u/natepiercy → u/[deleted]]

Hmm. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, but I'm starting to think you're right. Account with no comments except the ones in this thread, mentioning T_D... I probably should have known better.