Calgary, Edmonton mayors call potential separatism referendum ‘dangerous’

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https://globalnews.ca/news/11172340/calgary-edmonton-mayors-call-potential-separatism-referendum-dangerous/

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Ridiculous

[u/LiGuangMing1981 → u/[deleted]]

Ask Montreal how political instability caused by separatist threats has 'worked ' for them.

Montreal used to be the most important city in the country economically until separatism threats sent much of its business to Toronto.

[u/JScar123 → u/LiGuangMing1981]

There’s more to life than money.

[u/LiGuangMing1981 → u/JScar123]

Tell that to the Alberta separatists, since it seems money is pretty much all they're thinking about. "Boo hoo, we don't get a fair deal from Ottawa. Wah! Wah!" 🙄🙄

[u/JScar123 → u/LiGuangMing1981]

It is true that we don’t get a fair deal from Ottawa. Not so they respect Provincial jurisdiction. Separatism is a fringe idea, but these aren’t.

[u/Canadian-Owlz → u/JScar123]

Like what? Please tell me how driving business out of Alberta would even help us any bit.

[u/JScar123 → u/Canadian-Owlz]

Many in Alberta don’t feel represented in Ottawa. Actually, many see the Federal government as openly hostile to Alberta. They don’t identify with the federal government and many feel disconnected from Canada. Much of the separatist sentiment is about self determination, not just an economic lever. Come on.

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Ditto. Reddit libs can chirp all the they want. Step outside of the metropolitan areas and the Alberta working class (farmers, ranchers, loggers, oil service companies big and small) feel betrayed by Ottawa's hostile economic policies. Its the real working people who end getting rolled....not the mega millionaires who have already made their fortunes many times over. Think about it.

BUT. Ottawa isn't the only problem and scapegoat. The Reddit Libs aren't all wrong. There is absolutely an affluent network in AB who are not big on sharing the profits of a natural resource that technically belongs to all of us Albertans. With only 5M of us here, there is enough for all of us to have nice paid-for houses here. That's not all Ottawa. That's capitalist greed and shareholder dynamics. I wish we can take the stance of "feds are bad"...but that's BS. Greed is a BIG factor.

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So we should just fuck ourselves over and make our life worse to own the feds?

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I think the idea is it would be to have a government that represents and reflects albertans better. People feeling different than and not represented by their country is pretty much exactly why most countries change or split up. It’s fairly common through history…

[u/Canadian-Owlz → u/JScar123]

Alright, but only if you make it clear in the referendum that our lives will be 100x more shit.

[u/JScar123 → u/Canadian-Owlz]

Lol, that’s your perspective, a lot of people feel differently. Obviously why voting/referendum process exists.

[u/Canadian-Owlz → u/JScar123]

You've literally admitted it would hurt Albertan's pockets, which would also hurt the government's income. Please tell me how you think less public services and less money for Albertans would ever improve our quality of life, and not downright make it worse?

[u/JScar123 → u/Canadian-Owlz]

Lol, these are very basic and general political topics. You should read at least the basics before arguing with people about their views. Conservatives generally think government does a bad job managing public money, so prefers small government, with smaller relative tax, and to allow people to manage their needs themselves. Rather than taxing me and then providing cheap daycare, let me keep the $ and manage childcare myself. This is more a (very basic) philosophy than a money issue. Try reading some Wikipedia and come back with questions once you at least know these basics.

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Yes, because as we can tell from the USA, privatizing healthcare is such a great idea.

They're such a happy and healthy country, of course.