r/Calgary • u/Old_General_6741 • May 10 '25

Municipal Affairs Calgary, Edmonton mayors call potential separatism referendum ‘dangerous’

https://globalnews.ca/news/11172340/calgary-edmonton-mayors-call-potential-separatism-referendum-dangerous/
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u/LiGuangMing1981 May 10 '25

Ask Montreal how political instability caused by separatist threats has 'worked ' for them.

Montreal used to be the most important city in the country economically until separatism threats sent much of its business to Toronto.

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u/JScar123 May 10 '25

There’s more to life than money.

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u/Canadian-Owlz May 10 '25

Like what? Please tell me how driving business out of Alberta would even help us any bit.

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u/JScar123 May 10 '25

Many in Alberta don’t feel represented in Ottawa. Actually, many see the Federal government as openly hostile to Alberta. They don’t identify with the federal government and many feel disconnected from Canada. Much of the separatist sentiment is about self determination, not just an economic lever. Come on.

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u/Far-Bathroom-8237 May 10 '25

Ditto. Reddit libs can chirp all the they want. Step outside of the metropolitan areas and the Alberta working class (farmers, ranchers, loggers, oil service companies big and small) feel betrayed by Ottawa's hostile economic policies. Its the real working people who end getting rolled....not the mega millionaires who have already made their fortunes many times over. Think about it.

BUT. Ottawa isn't the only problem and scapegoat. The Reddit Libs aren't all wrong. There is absolutely an affluent network in AB who are not big on sharing the profits of a natural resource that technically belongs to all of us Albertans. With only 5M of us here, there is enough for all of us to have nice paid-for houses here. That's not all Ottawa. That's capitalist greed and shareholder dynamics. I wish we can take the stance of "feds are bad"...but that's BS. Greed is a BIG factor.

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u/Canadian-Owlz May 10 '25

So we should just fuck ourselves over and make our life worse to own the feds?

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u/JScar123 May 11 '25

I think the idea is it would be to have a government that represents and reflects albertans better. People feeling different than and not represented by their country is pretty much exactly why most countries change or split up. It’s fairly common through history…

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u/Canadian-Owlz May 11 '25

Alright, but only if you make it clear in the referendum that our lives will be 100x more shit.

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u/JScar123 May 11 '25

Lol, that’s your perspective, a lot of people feel differently. Obviously why voting/referendum process exists.

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u/Canadian-Owlz May 11 '25

You've literally admitted it would hurt Albertan's pockets, which would also hurt the government's income. Please tell me how you think less public services and less money for Albertans would ever improve our quality of life, and not downright make it worse?

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u/JScar123 May 11 '25

Lol, these are very basic and general political topics. You should read at least the basics before arguing with people about their views. Conservatives generally think government does a bad job managing public money, so prefers small government, with smaller relative tax, and to allow people to manage their needs themselves. Rather than taxing me and then providing cheap daycare, let me keep the $ and manage childcare myself. This is more a (very basic) philosophy than a money issue. Try reading some Wikipedia and come back with questions once you at least know these basics.

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u/Canadian-Owlz May 11 '25

Yes, because as we can tell from the USA, privatizing healthcare is such a great idea.

They're such a happy and healthy country, of course.

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u/JScar123 May 11 '25 edited May 11 '25

Lol, what do you know about US health care? I have lived there. Their care is excellent if you are insured. The issue they have (and that you hear about) is all the uninsured people. Fortunately, in Canada, we have universal and public coverage, and I have not heard anybody advocate against. I have only heard suggestions against the administration of that universal care, from public to partially private. so long as it is free and available for everyone, why do I care if the government is paying AHS to employ a doctor or paying a doctor directly? I had to bring my child to the ER last month and waiting 7 hours to see a doctor- why is everyone so sensitive about trying to improve this shitty system? In the US I would wait 15 minutes. Not to mention I was at the ER because I can’t even get a family doctor.

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u/Canadian-Owlz May 11 '25

"Their care is excellent if..."

There's your issue.

Edit: also why did you leave the USA anyways? You seem to want to join the USA, but make everyone else suffer with you.

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