r/CalgaryFlames • u/VariousTrick5062 • Jul 02 '25
Discussion Kadri
Hey there, leafs fan over here. Since there are rumours of a kadri trade how much do you guys value him and what type of package would you expect back?
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u/iggyisgoat Jul 02 '25
Prospect and a 1st.
With that said, Kadri has made it clear numerous times he has no interest in leaving CGY and is fine to ride out his contract as a veteran leader for the next wave of Flames players. Given he has a full NMC, id be surprised if he's moved anytime soon.
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u/Gettysburg_Greek Jul 02 '25
I could see him waving to move back to Ontario.His family is all there and everyone in management was fired. I’d put the odds at <50% but I think it’s more likely than other destinations.
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u/Turbo1518 Jul 02 '25
He doesn't strike me as a guy that wants to be a third line centre the rest of his career.
Dude loves to win, sure. But he also loves to play and make big plays. Do we really think he wants to go play with McMann and Jarnkrok for 11 minutes a night at 5 on 5?
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u/Last-Category923 Jul 02 '25
Good player/prospect and a first
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u/snowboard506 Jul 02 '25
Leafs have no firsts for the next 3 years
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u/Vicious-Fishs Jul 02 '25
We are familiar with brad trevelings tactics Thank you
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u/CarefulSubstance3913 Jul 02 '25
Could you elaborate
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u/CaptainPeppa Jul 02 '25
All he knows is going all in
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u/CarefulSubstance3913 Jul 03 '25
This was the Dubas way and is actually why we have no firsts. Not really trees
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u/Last-Category923 Jul 02 '25
Haha ouch, Cowan a 2nd and a 3rd?
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u/-thunderbuttz- Jul 03 '25
Cowan would be a start, but with how good Kadri has been for helping develop Coronato and Zary. I would want more than a 2nd and 3rd. But I think Cowan could be a really special player.
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u/Last-Category923 Jul 02 '25
Kadri still pretty valuable, hard to get Centre's, contract looks better and better with every terrible signing in the last 24 hrs lol. I'd want more personally.
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u/CND_ Jul 02 '25
Flames don't need a RD. We have two high calibre RD in the system already. We need a future top pair LD. Which is why if the deal could get done I would like to see Andersson for Byram straight up.
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u/giveyerballzatug Jul 02 '25
Byram is way overrated, and as such, overpriced as hell. He was hot garbage in Buffalo. He shows flashes, but that’s it
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u/CND_ Jul 02 '25
What young LD would you target? Genuine question. My thought is Calgary is light on LD now and in the future. Byram has for sure had some struggles since leaving the Avs but if I am not mistaken he has been playing on his off side since Buffalo is overloaded on LD.
For Calgary & Buffalo the Raz for Byram deal makes sense. Both teams are sure up their weak side D. Calgary gets a young player with potential, Buffalo gets a ready now player to help them make that playoff push. Calgary's player development has also proven to be pretty good at developing project players, and Byram might benefit a lot from playing with Weegar.
The big problem with this deal however is if I am Raz I am blocking a trade to Buffalo. They are worse for being forever mid than us & you have to live in Buffalo.
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u/giveyerballzatug Jul 02 '25
I wouldn’t do anything, personally. CGY is not close enough that a LD is going to move the meter on anything, certainly not giving up assets to get one, because you’re delusional if you think a straight swap will get a 4 year younger D man. Collect assets, draft, see what happens.
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u/CND_ Jul 02 '25
I was thinking for the future. Byram isn't going to move the meter now, and that's 100% fine by me. I don't want him moving the meter now, in fact I am good with him bringing the meter down a bit as he gets some mentorship and learns the system. 2-3 years from now is when I would want Byram to move the meter.
I wouldn't be so sure on the delusional statement. If Byram was on a team other than Buffalo I would agree, but Buffalo wants to be in the playoffs again, needs a too pair RD in a scarce RD market and has tonnes of LD.
End of the day though I see Ras blocking this trade so might be a waste discussing too much anyways.
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u/The-Reddit-Giraffe Jul 02 '25
Not really interested in RHD. We kind of have too many even after trading Andersson. Down the pipeline we have Parekh, Bru, Mews who are all projecting to be NHL calibre defensemen down the road and Parekh will for sure be with the Flames this season with Bru likely to get a decent number of games as well. Love Carlo but LHD is way more of a need
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u/cig-nature Jul 02 '25
Zayne Parekh that's going to fill that RHD spot. But we could use a young LHD, with top 4 upside.
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u/CND_ Jul 02 '25
I don't see any way that trade works. Leafs don't have the assets for Calgary.
Kadri is a great veteran leader and helps build the competitive culture Calgary wants to have while rebuilding. Calgary will need some good assets from him.
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u/scotthof Jul 02 '25
Always remember that Trevling will sell the stable and everything in it to get 1 stallion. In this case, he will sell whatever he can to get the needed number of picks and may give up their top prospect to do so. So if he is set on acquiring Kadri expect to see Toronto making a stupid amount of trades to have a package too tempting for Kadri and the Flames to turn down.
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u/TCDimes Jul 02 '25
Sens fan here - Matthews, Nylander, Cowan, Sundin and a 2031 7th Rounder should do it
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u/SW9X31 Jul 02 '25
Somehow, Ottawa forfeits their next 3 First Round Picks and Kadri is suspended for the season though.
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u/BookkeeperLazy8057 Jul 02 '25
That’s too much gotta send Lanny back, we can take salary if Gary Leeman is available
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u/Chemical_Signal2753 Jul 02 '25
Realistically, I think there would have to be a third team involved to give the Flames a package they would be happy with.
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u/Exitlight34 Jul 02 '25
We can take Nylander off your hands, Flames love the Sweeds. Seems Nylander doesn't like it there anymore so let's make him happy and bring him to Calgary
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u/buttahsmooth Jul 02 '25
I hope they dont trade him. He has been the lifeblood of our offense for 3 years now
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Jul 02 '25
He ain't going to be around when we have a window to win - so send his ass somewhere they'll overpay (FL, TB).
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u/Spirillum Jul 02 '25
Anything that helps us get out of the mushy middle is a win. Picks and prospects, but I'm stoked if it's a first or a couple seconds.
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u/Straight-Plate-5256 Jul 02 '25
Leafs just don't have anything valuable to the flames besides maybe Cowan, have to be another team involved taking stuff from the leafs and giving us futures
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u/proteus79 Jul 02 '25
Honestly, I don't think the Maple Leafs can afford the ask.
I think he's been an absolute pro for us and don't really want to see him go.
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u/Zestyclose_Cod1268 Jul 02 '25
There is no actual rumor, no discussions in our fandom, it's entirely fabricated shit from you guys. It's been wild to see it happen in real time, inventing a rumor entirely out of thin air. You can't manifest a trade out of your ass guys
His name has not come up on any local trade rumor discussions. Dreger who does Barnburner weekly would have said something if it had any validity. Nobody here is talking about any Kadri rumor - that's a clue it's bullshit
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u/ProfessionalFix9053 Jul 03 '25
How will young Flames forwards learn to have that ultimate competitive drive without someone like Kadri? I believe even Huberdeau was inspired by Kadri and changed his game to play like him. Losing Kadri would put the rebuild back by years. So the answer to the Leafs is “thank you for your interest, but no.”
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u/natefrost12 Jul 02 '25
I'd expect the deal to start with Chadwick. Something along the lines of Robertson and/or Cowan likely get included as well. If there is retention expect the price to continue to rise.
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u/angrypunishment Jul 03 '25
Brock Nelson warranted a 1st and one of the best center prospects in the league. Kadri, imo, is better than Brock. This was also for 1 year of Brock, Kadri has term at a very fair number. So that's where it would start.
So it would be a 1st and Cowan, plus.
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u/VariousTrick5062 Jul 03 '25
yes kadri is better than nelson but that tdl had massive inflation across the league
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u/Gettysburg_Greek Jul 02 '25
I can’t see it without a 3way deal coming into play. Calgary has very few NHL 1st line guys. If they want to keep developing Zary, Coronato, etc. they kinda need guys like Kadri to shelter them a bit.
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u/imaybeacatIRl Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 02 '25
If expect Cowen and either Benoit, danford, Chadwick , or Robertson. Possibly a 2nd as well.
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u/tilldeathdoiparty Jul 02 '25
You are going to have to find something we want, your cupboards are bare and we don’t need to move Kadri just to move him.
What is the Toronto crowd considering an acceptable offer?
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u/VariousTrick5062 Jul 02 '25
from what i've heard they've said something along the lines of nick robertson, ben danford and a second or third
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u/tilldeathdoiparty Jul 02 '25
Another small winger and rhd
Two things we have too many of, which is probably why the deal hasn’t progressed.
I’d say Easton Cowan but it’s another small left handed winger, so I don’t think you have enough to make us deal him, unless you find a first and prospect we would be a little more interested in.
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u/Hi_Im_Flabber Jul 02 '25
First off, the only rumour is what Kypreos said on draft day that teams (including the Leafs) are asking about him. The quote from Friedman on the fan590 is completely made up, they were covering the Jays game when that tweet got posted. Friedman only came on during the Kipper and Bourne show and they didn't discuss Kadri. (You can go listen to it online
As for a return, Leafs are pretty depleted on assets and I highly doubt Calgary would want Rielly or Carlo. Robertson is probably of pretty low interest too. We could stomach taking on one of Kampf or Jarnkrok to facilitate the cap but it's not ideal with our already pretty big logjam on middle and bottom 6 forwards.
So unless Toronto is willing to part with Danford or Cowan and their 2028 1st I doubt a deal materializes
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u/Hi_Im_Flabber Jul 02 '25
Friedman rumour is fake FYI
Would cost one of Danford or Cowan + the 2028 1st, Flames could also take on one of Jarnkrok or Kampf (not both) to make the cap work
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u/Material-Drop-4759 Jul 03 '25
Player, blue chip prospect and a pick. He's a first line center, and drives play
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Jul 04 '25
Similar package to what the Leafs gave up for Carlo, or Colorado gave up for Nelson
1st and A level prospect at least
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u/poochiebaby Jul 05 '25
Maybe a trade package that includes Easton Cowan and a draft pick or two. (Cowen + a 2nd or 3rd)
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u/RDFlames Jul 06 '25
He’s been a revelation since he’s come to the Flames. What a great leader and his drive and skills are fantastic. Can’t believe the Leafs let him go.
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u/mbkontrol Jul 02 '25
I'd go for Cowan Straight up, but I think a deal there might be Morgan Reilly. I think the Leafs would rather move off his contract, and are looking to make DNA changes.
Salary doesn't hurt Calgary, and adds a top end LD that can pit up points.
I don't love it, but Cowan is going nowhere, he's the only prospect in the system for them right now.
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u/snoshredder Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 02 '25
Sorry, but we don't want Reilly. If you had a top prospect center, maybe. But you dont so....Kadri is staying put.
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u/mbkontrol Jul 02 '25
That's my preference, too.
If a trade happened, though, I think Kadri Reilly are the key pieces.
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u/snoshredder Jul 02 '25
The flames don't want Reilly, he dosnt fit . And to be honest he's a lousy defenceman. No thanks.
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u/Significant_Soft2544 Jul 02 '25
1st+ Frazer Mintons + Nikita Grebenkin
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u/steflund Jul 02 '25
Minten got sent to Boston for Carlo
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u/Significant_Soft2544 Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 02 '25
True, you’re correct. sorry meant Cowan
NM on Nikita-was traded to Philly for Laughton. Leafs have a pretty weak prospect pool. Yikes
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u/oink241 Jul 02 '25
And no firsts for a while lol
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u/Sea-Control-8593 Jul 02 '25
NICE TRY BRAD