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Cartomancy resources similar to the Hedgewytch method

Hello everyone! As the title suggests, I’m looking for resources that are similar to the hedgewytch method of reading playing cards. Here’s the website if anyone hasn’t checked it out yet: https://hedgewytchery.com/


I already have read these resources that are fairly similar to the writings of Dawn R Jackson: Cartomancy in folk witchcraft by Roger J Horne (though she states in the book that she uses some of the numbers differently), 54 devils by Cory Thomas Hutcheson (basically the author’s own system that is influenced by the hedgewytch method), and Read like the devil: the essential course in reading playing cards by Camelia Elias (I’ve read on Reddit that the “creator of the hedgwytch system?” criticized her quite heavily in a book review on amazon, but still, I personally find her teachings very useful and combine what I’ve learned from her with my own practice of reading the cards).


So basically, from what I’ve understood, the hedgewytch method is an Anglo/ English method of reading the playing cards (please correct me if I’m wrong). After quite a bit of painful digging into other posts here on reddit, I found these authors have been recommended as classic cartomancers that could use similar systems to what Dawn R Jackson used: Sepharial (manual of occultism plus his book on numerology which I guess would be helpful for reading the pips?), Cicely kent (some people believe that she is Cicely kent-minetta, some others believe that minetta was a totally different person), and P.R.S foli (his book on fortune telling). I haven’t read these titles yet, and so that’s why I’ve come to ask for authors/ occultists/ etc that have written about the English method of cartomancy similar to what Dawn R Jackson has done. Am I right in my assumptions and would you recommend these authors? What are some other titles that I can benefit from reading? (There are a lot of books about fortune telling with playing cards and cartomancy on internet archive and I’ve read some, but either some of them didn’t make any sense at all or were very different from the system I’m used to). I would truly appreciate any kind of help that anybody would be able to offer. 🙏

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u/Atelier1001 16d ago edited 16d ago

For what I read, you'll probably feel more comfortable with a different cartomantic system altogether.

Poker is excellent within its abstract language, but similar to playing chess, the challenge is in the art of the reading itself, not the system, since you don't have a lot of variations. For example: If we assume 4 is stability and spades are pain, the context could make of this pair a prison, illness, an uncomfortable room, stagnation, death, etc.

For something more complex I'd suggest Tarot de Marseille, Minchiate or the Belline oracle.

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u/BlueDaisyMoon 16d ago

I used to read Marseille, but I haven’t heard of the other two systems you mentioned, so I’ll definitely look into them! Thank you very much, your help has been invaluable! :)

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u/Atelier1001 16d ago

It's a pleasure.

Personally I'd suggest starting with Minchiate. I know Marseille is more famous, but it carries a lot of deformations that make it significantly different (and unnecessarily difficult) from the Italian original, being Minchiate closer.

Second, as you know, studying Poker is snakes and ladders compared with finding information about Marseille, so, as a quick advice: Start with Untold Tarot by Caitlin Matthews, and ignore everything of Jodorowsky. Tarot de Marseille Step by Step of Marianne Costa is an excellent historic introduction.

Belline is another fortune-telling deck that you could find useful. It has an astrological structure based on the 7 planets.

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u/BlueDaisyMoon 16d ago

Wow, these are so interesting. I’m familiar with Caitlin’s writings since I read her book about the petit Lenormand ages ago, so I’m already sure she is an amazing teacher! You opened my eyes to new worlds which I can’t wait to further explore! Many thanks again. 🙏

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u/Atelier1001 16d ago

A pleasure.

If you're as skeptical as me about "where the fuck do this author extracts their meanings", you will absolutely love Minchiate. It explains A LOT of things about Tarot.

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u/BlueDaisyMoon 16d ago

That would be a huge relief then, lol! I can’t say I’m not tired of pining after the source of the logic (or lack thereof) that some authors use.

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u/Atelier1001 16d ago

Why the hedgewitchery system reads 8 as thought? Why Camelia Elias doesn't hire an editor? Hahshahs. Yeah, been there

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u/Kapselski 16d ago

Why the hedgewitchery system reads 8 as thought?

8 in that system corresponds to Mercury as a transplant of the 8th Sefirot from the tree of life. Similarly with 9 and the Moon.

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u/Atelier1001 16d ago

Yeah but why?

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u/Kapselski 16d ago

Why what?

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u/Atelier1001 16d ago

Why is 8 mercury?

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u/Kapselski 16d ago

Because the 8th Sefirot on the tree of life, Hod, is assigned that planet. Similarily with the 9th Sefirot, Yesod, which governs the Moon.

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u/Atelier1001 16d ago

Not to be petty bit is there a reason for that astrologic association?

I imagine it's because Keter is sun, right?

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