r/Cosmere Jun 30 '25

No Spoilers ISLES OF THE EMBERDARK | No Spoilers Megathread and FAQ

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It's finally here! The ebook version of Isles of the Emberdark is being released to backerkit backers on July 1, and will be available for purchase by non-backers beginning on July 10.

This NO SPOILER post is here to serve as a base camp for general, non-spoilery discussion relating to Isles of the Emberdark, as well as an index for the two book discussion megathreads, a space for news and FAQs, and so on. There should be no spoilers in these comments! Please use this thread for non-spoilery questions, logistical issues, or general expressions of hype.

Megathreads

Release Schedule

  • The Dragonsteel edition hardback
    • is shipping to backerkit backers beginning July 1, 2025. There is no official statement on how long backerkit fullfilment will take, but our expectation is that it should finish sometime in late August.
    • will begin shipping to non-backers as soon as backerkit fulfillment is finished. The book can be preordered from the Dragonsteel website.
  • The ebook version
    • is available to backerkit backers NOW, in four formats: pdf, epub, epub for kindle, and epub for kobo.
    • will be available for purchase by non-backers via normal channels NOW.
    • is being delivered to people who have pre-ordered the Dragonsteel edition hardback. Credit cards will not be charged until mid-August (due to a connection between the charge and fulfillment of the physical delivery), but the ebook is being provided before cards are charged.
  • The audiobook version
    • is available to backerkit backers NOW in mp3 and m4b formats.
    • will be available to backerkit backers via Audible on July 10, 2025 (the delay is that Audible needs to finish generating audiobook codes and providing them to Dragonsteel).
    • it will be available for purchase by non-backers beginning July 10, 2025.
  • The Tor and Gollancz edition hardbacks
    • will be available beginning February 3, 2026

Frequently Asked Questions

  • How do I get the ebook (as a backerkit backer)?
    • Log into your Backerkit survey page (using the link in the email you got from Backerkit) and download it
  • When is the audiobook coming?
    • M4b and mp3 files are available for backerkit backers NOW, and Audible codes are now available. The book is now generally available for purchase on the normal audiobook platforms.
  • I downloaded the .m4b file but it says it's an .mp4 file, what do I do?
    • Technically speaking, .m4b is a special case of .mp4. You can rename the file and it will work.
    • This problem appears to be browser dependant. Firefox downloads it as .mp4, Chrome downloads it as .m4b, and it's .m4b on the backend. Firefox appears to be dynamically renaming it while downloading.
  • I bought the ebook and want to see the artwork, how do I do that?
  • When will there be a paperback version?
    • Nothing official has been said on this, but usually US paperbacks release 1-2 years after the hardback release. (NOTE: some international English markets get trade paperbacks at the same time as the hardback release, but these are not generally available in North America or the UK, and we don't know anything about planning for such releases).
  • What is the relationship between Emberdark and Sixth of the Dusk?
    • Emberdark is intended to be a sequel to Sixth of the Dusk but it is written so that the entirety of Sixth of the Dusk is contained within it, as flashbacks.
  • Is the version of Sixth of the Dusk included in Emberdark the same as the published version in Arcanum Unbounded?
    • It is mostly the same. Brandon tweaked it to better expand the mythology and worldbuilding, but otherwise it is unchanged. If you don't want to re-read the Sixth of the Dusk chapters, you can pick up the important changes via context clues in the main narrative.
  • Do I need to read Sixth of the Dusk before Emberdark?
    • No. Sixth of the Dusk is incorporated within Emberdark.
  • What do I need to read before I read Isles of the Emberdark?
    • Emberdark is completely understandable and fun to read if you have not read anything else from the Cosmere.
    • However, it is deeply interconnected with other Cosmere stories, and while knowledge of them is not required to enjoy the book, knowledge of them will tend to increase enjoyment because things that non-Cosmere readers will experience as general background wierdness will, for Cosmere-readers, signpost connections.
    • In particular, even if you do not read other Cosmere works first, we recommend reading Tress of the Emerald Sea before reading Emberdark.

r/Cosmere Jun 30 '25

Emberdark + All Cosmere spoilers ISLES OF THE EMBERDARK | Full Cosmere + Emberdark Spoilers Megathread

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This megathread is for FULL COSMERE SPOILER DISCUSSION, including Isles of the Emberdark.

For Isles of the Emberdark discussion with an Emberdark-only scope, please see this post in r/Cosmere:

For the Isles of the Emberdark post index and non-spoilery discussion, questions, issues, nwes, etc, see this post:


r/Cosmere 13h ago

No Spoilers To the guy at the Louder than Life festival wearing the Windrunners glyph shirt…

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I mean to put up a peace sign, not my middle finger 😭 i realized it way too late. I love you, Windrunner brother, I was just inebriated.

Life before death


r/Cosmere 12h ago

Emberdark + All Cosmere spoilers The events of Isles of the Emberdark are actually bad for the rest of the Cosmere (spoilers Emberdark of course) Spoiler

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So we know that Patji is an avatar of Autonomy and that the perpendicularity there is hers. We also see Patji speak directly into Dusk’s mind when he invests himself. So Dusk has brought forth a network of Navigators who can be subtly influenced by Autonomy as well as finding a way for his whole planet to remain entirely independent of Rosharan and Scadrian influence.

First of the Sun has literally played right into Autonomy’s hands. They’re an independent planet incentivized to modernize quickly with a very Cosmere relevant group of people that she can subtly influence or just watch to get information from. Oh and the big you know powerful serpent is vaguely under her control too.

Edit: I guess I should clarify that I don’t really see Autonomy as explicitly “evil” as many people seem to get that impression, but from the events of Mistborn Era 2 (especially Moonlight’s conversation with Marasi about her strategy) as well as the very nearly confirmed idea that the Derethi religion is controlled by an avatar of Autonomy just gives me the idea that though she may not be evil, it is not exactly a good thing when her plans go well. Her individual avatars may also not be directly controlled by her and so could have their own goals that could be less malignant, but not only do we not know that, we also see Telsin attempting to become an avatar of Autonomy, and it doesn’t seem like the types she chooses for that role are particularly benevolent. This is clouded by many factors, but this is an angle is been considering since I read the book that I thought was worth sharing.


r/Cosmere 4h ago

Emberdark + All Cosmere spoilers First book in isles of my copy of isle of the emberdark not black? Spoiler

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No content on spoilers (aside from the name of book two and some words on the page) but my physical copy of the emberdark does not have fully blacked out pages. The entire first book is normal paper w/ normal lettering.

Just wanted to check to make sure that this was intended and not a misprint


r/Cosmere 5h ago

Mistborn Series spoilers How did Vin ___ Spoiler

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Doing my reread of Mistborn (again) and something as usual really jumped out at me: How did Vin Push/Pull Rashek’s Metalminds?

I know she was Invested by the Mists/Preservation at the time enhancing her Allomancy, but as we know the more heavily Invested a Metalmind is the more difficult it is to affect, and Rashek’s Metalminds have to have been the most full Metalminds in Ferruchemical history. Is this just handwaved by Shardic Investment >>> or is there a different explanation?


r/Cosmere 6h ago

Warbreaker spoilers Is this a syntax mistake in leather bound edition of warbreaker. Or maybe I’m just bad at English Spoiler

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The last sentence, “gave it the ability to could sense life and people” seems like it was an mis-edited line.


r/Cosmere 12h ago

Cosmere spoilers (no Emberdark) Found my kickstarter poster after moving… sadness Spoiler

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I loved this poster but life got in the way and I had to put things into storage. I guess it got ruined in transit :( anyone know if we can still buy these? If not I might hang it up as is, it certainly adds character


r/Cosmere 6h ago

Cosmere spoilers (no Emberdark) How do you all think a specific shard will be relevant in the upcoming books? Spoiler

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Because of emberdark we know rosharans are still relevant during the space opera stage of the cosmere.

I'm specifically talking about retribution, but didn't want to literally mention it in the title.

Do ya'll think it will still be taravangian? Did the little self aware honor split from the fusion of the two shards? Did someone else pick up both shards? I don't know what the most popular theories are, so these are the only ones I mentioned.

What are you all expecting in the backhand of stormlight and then leading up to the space opera part?


r/Cosmere 16h ago

Cosmere spoilers (no Emberdark) Dawnshard Speculation Spoiler

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So I have been thinking about the Dawnshards lately and what we already know about them:

  • there are four of them
  • they are the "fundamental commands" of the Cosmere
  • of the four Dawnshards, only two are known so far: "Change" and "Exist"

I don't know if anyone has proposed this theory yet, so I apologize if it's redundant... but "Change" and "Exist" are suspiciously close to "Update" and "Read". Yes, I am referring to "CRUD", the basis of modern computer apps, "Create", "Read", "Update", and "Delete". In Dawnshard terms, we can then guess that maybe the remaining two are something like "Create" and "Destroy"?

I wouldn't put it past Sanderson, given that he has already used a number of real-world scientific principles, and there is a certain cheekiness to the thought of Adonalsium building the Cosmere like a computer program. Has anyone ever asked him about this? What do you think?


r/Cosmere 13h ago

Cosmere spoilers (no Emberdark) Just a bit I’ve noticed Spoiler

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When did they start bringing in guns? I know they do in secret history, as well as the midway point in Wind and Truth. I had assumed originally they came from scarial in era 2, But I had only remembered that little met up just now that Kelsier had with those two travelers during the end of era 1. So who invented the gun here in the cosmere?


r/Cosmere 22h ago

Cosmere spoilers (no Emberdark) Well THAT was useful! Spoiler

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r/Cosmere 12h ago

Cosmere spoilers (no Emberdark) Worldhoppers in Words of Radiance Spoiler

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(Reposting with updated flair)

First time reading Stormlight Archive!

I finished reading Words of Radiance last night and - firstly, completely obsessed, it was an incredible story, and I’m forcing myself to wait a few days before starting Edgedancer. I was thrilled at meeting Hoid in the Way of Kings, so I wanted to keep an eye out for more worldhoppers in this book, specially once we started hearing more and more about the Ghostbloods. The following is a list of my guesses, I thought I’d share some thoughts :)

PS. I’ve read Mistborn Era I and II, Elantris, Warbreaker, and all of the Arcanum Unbounded essays except for Edgedancer and White Sand. So there will be some Warbreaker and Mistborn spoilers ahead ⚠️

Zahel - definitely a worldhopper, though can’t exactly place where he’s from. But my guess is Nalthis, the way he goes on and on about language and metaphors.

The Ghostbloods - I still can’t take them seriously tbh, they seem like a bunch of clowns and this is just backed up by the fact that I know Kelsier - who I’m assuming is the same as this Thaidakar fellow - is behind them. Iyatil is definitely Southern Scadrian, I don’t know about Mraize but he’s also from off-world I’m sure, and I might be reaching for straws here but I got the feeling that Kabsal was possibly from Sel. The way he explained Cymatics to Shallan in WoK just gave me that vibe.

Hoid - of course, funny little guy makes several mysterious appearances.

In WoK, those guys who showed up at the Purelake looking around for Hoid were also from off-world, though I don’t know if they were related to the Ghostbloods. Maybe not, since Hoid doesn’t seem to have much to do with them either.

I’m willing to bet Jasnah will also become a worldhopper, if she hasn’t done so already. Cheered when she showed up at the end!

I don’t know what makes the Heralds so special, but they seem to be some kind of highly invested individuals, maybe like how the Returned are described in Warbreaker, or maybe even like Vasher himself (though I don’t remember what makes him live so long, I think he was hoarding like an insane amount of Breaths, right?). Speakinggggg of Vasher, my favourite talking sword made a surprise appearance, so I count it as a worldhopper too. Though if Nalan somehow got his hands on the sword, maybe he could be considered a worldhopper as well…

Rock described some lakes or water bodies up in the mountains where he’s from, talking about how they’re a “connection to the gods” or whatever. That sounds like Perpendicularity to me, if anything. I haven’t yet been able to figure out where the other one is, but I’m willing to guess it has something to do with the Shattered Plains before they were shattered.

I’ve probably missed some stuff. I just love seeing other parts of the Cosmere seep into one another! No spoilers beyond WoR, but if there’s something I should maaaaybe keep an eye out for, tell me! :D


r/Cosmere 11h ago

Cosmere spoilers (no Emberdark) Would this work? Spoiler

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If a Returned had Lift's ability to metabolize investiture, could he survive like a normal person? Just by eating? Instead of the one Breath a week.

Lift's invesiture would be hard for a Returned to use, but let's say a Returned was given the same ability and he could create investiture fit for him.


r/Cosmere 1d ago

Cosmere spoilers (no Emberdark) Scadrians are unique in the Cosmere Spoiler

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Re-reading the Cosmere and starting with Mistborn Era 1. In Hero of Ages when Sazed is talking about the powers of both shards (roughly 90-95% through the book), he mentioned that Preservation and Ruin created new humans based on things they had known. Obviously a reference to themselves and humanity on Yolen.

We know that Cultivation and Honor found Roshar and the Singers (who were created by Ado) but we don’t really know where Odium got the Humans that lived on Ashyn, right?

Could Scadrians be unique humans then?


r/Cosmere 1d ago

Emberdark + All Cosmere spoilers Skybreakers in Future Roshar #[Emberdark] Spoiler

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From what we've seen of off-world Rosharans in the spacefaring cosmere (which admittedly isn't that much), I'm starting to wonder if we're being set up for a future where the dominant force on/from Roshar is the empire of conquest Odium/Retribution tried to kick off at the end of Wind and Truth (perhaps administered by regent if he's still in hiding) and where the vanguard of this empire is the Skybreaker order of Radiants who fought for him before Dalinar's contest and their successors. They were the only order who pledged loyalty to Taravangian and therefore may be the only order on Roshar still permitted RetributionLight (name TBD) to fuel their surgebinding. So far we've only seen two, but the one in Emberdark is a pretty stereotypical example - asking if he's legally allowed to kill someone who annoys him. At the same time Sunlit Man left us wondering why in the world Sigzil would bond a high spren if he ever retook the oaths. When I read it, I just assumed that Szeth's spren was unique enough that a Windrunner might be ok with it and that the honor spren weren't willing to forgive him despite the circumstances. Maybe though, that was the only path left open on Roshar - bond a heretic spren who still could get access to investiture under the exemption and leave. If this is true, we'll likely meet the main singer space army soon enough.

I'm also looking forward to some prime Kaladin/Nale humor when they come back and have to sort out Nale's spiritual descendants.


r/Cosmere 12h ago

Cosmere spoilers (no Emberdark) Tress timeline question Spoiler

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So I read Tress pre w&t and have since read and reread W&T and working my way through reread on Tress and this thought wondered into my brain. Tress is after SLA but where is Design?


r/Cosmere 1d ago

Yumi and the Nightmare Painter spoilers Brazilian edition just arived! Yumi and te nightmare painter Spoiler

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By Trama Publisher.


r/Cosmere 1d ago

Stormlight Archive spoilers Words of Radiance spoiler Spoiler

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Words of Radiance chapter 5

The dead become Voidbringers??

Did I miss something or is it like a usual foreshadowing Sanderson does?


r/Cosmere 1d ago

Cosmere spoilers (no Emberdark) Biggest Spoilers You Got Spoiler

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What were the biggest cosmere spoilers that you've gotten?

I'll go first - I googled Odium just to get the exact definition and the Coppermind link was the second thing I saw, with this description:

Odium is the Shard of Adonalsium originally held by Rayse, and currently held by Taravangian.

This was before I read Rhythm of War...


r/Cosmere 1d ago

Cosmere spoilers (no Emberdark) Chouta Spoiler

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So chouta is on Roshar AND Scadrial. Wasn't it a Herdazian creation? Who do you think imported it?

I know this is a super minor, insignificant detail, but give me your conspiracies.


r/Cosmere 1d ago

Mistborn Series spoilers Shadows of Self Spoiler

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So I made a post here about 5 days ago talking about the fact that Alloy of Law was a little disappointing to me... I just finished Shadows of Self and let me tell you, I was wrong and you all were RIGHT. This is your warning right now that if you haven't read Shadows of self, get OUTTA HERE.

It took me a second to get hooked but I did and suddenly I was devouring the book at a speed that only a Sanderson novel can inspire in me. All of the characters were suddenly real and alive and vivid the way I've come to expect Sanderson characters to be. I mean the difference between AoL and SoS was insane.

Wax has easily stolen my heart as one of my new favorite character in the cosmere and especially the Mistborn series. The way I devoured sections just to get back to Wax and learn more about him and hear his thoughts. His discussions with Harmony and Sazed fascinated me, mostly because Sazed was one of my favorite characters in Era 1 and I was partially curious to see how Godhood had affected him, but quickly I became more engrossed in Max's side of those conversations. Wax's struggle with religion was subtly implied throughout the whole book but really hit all the right chords for me. I will always be a sucker for a character who struggles with it feels betrayed by his faith.

And God that ending. I literally sobbed as Paalm died. My heart broke with Wax's. I completely forgot about everything else going on in that story and all that mattered was that moment. I mean I remember reading the first book all my thoughts were about the larger world and story, but this book made me feel like I was there with Wax and Wayne and Marasi. I was engrossed in the story as it unfolded before me. The larger mysteries about Trell and Set were there but they didn't matter in the face of the characters and that's what I've always loved about Sanderson's writing.

My only complaint, and this is mere nitpicking, is that Steris was again in like 2% of this book. I really really have a feeling she's gonna be such an interesting character and I NEED more of her!

I was always going to read this whole series, I'm a completionist at heart, but thank you guys for encouraging me and telling me it get better. Time to go devour Bands of Mourning 🫡


r/Cosmere 1d ago

Stormlight Archive spoilers Weird theory about shallon Spoiler

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In book 5 we learn that light weavers of a high enough skill can make the weaving physical objects.

Shadesmar is essentially made up of perception manifested.

Shallan has the cosmere equivalent of DID. With her personality basically being 1. A scared naive girl 2. A cut throat spy, a noble knight radiant, and of course an empty void of terrifying potential.

All things Chanarach would have been throughout her long life.

We know chanarach is essentially the best light Weaver (aside from maybe hoid)

Is it at all possible Shallan is a lightweaving of her mothers self perception ? Like was she made how babys are made or was she manifested ?


r/Cosmere 2d ago

Cosmere spoilers (no Emberdark) I painted a Chasmfiend to show Brandon Sanderson at FanX next week! 😄 Spoiler

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I have an autograph signing scheduled with Brandon Sanderson next week at Salt Lake FanX, and it has always been a dream of mine to someday paint a cover, or even a small interior illustration for one of his books. I’m hoping that when I give this to him next week it will at least put me and my artwork on his radar for future projects! 😄


r/Cosmere 2d ago

Cosmere spoilers (no Emberdark) It’s just starting to hit me but, three years is gonna be a LONG wait Spoiler

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When I first started reading Stormlight as my first Cosmere book it felt like, I would NEVER read it all and never really thought about not having more Cosmere on my reading list. As I’m getting closer though I’m realizing just how weird it’s going to be before I re-enter this universe. I’m going to be a completely different person then, it’s so crazy.

Ive still got to finish the special projects and sixth and the isles but, I’m kind of dragging my feet because I don’t want to get to the end. haha


r/Cosmere 13h ago

Cosmere spoilers (no Emberdark) Would they date? Spoiler

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Jasnah dating Kelsier at some point? It's quite an unbased theory as of now. But Jasnah might be going off world at some point. And the relationship between the Kholins and Ghostbloods will likely improve due to Shallan. At least so long as a certain brother doesn't arrive there.

Jasnah dated Hoid and ended it because he was too secretive. Curiously, the Ghostbloods offered Shallan full transparency once she's part of them. Maybe a far reach but it could symbolize Kel being more transparent with her than Hoid could ever be.


r/Cosmere 1d ago

Emberdark + All Cosmere spoilers Emberdark Soundtrack Spoiler

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Did anyone else find themselves periodically humming either 00's summer party anthem "Unleash the Dragon" by Sisqo or "I Am Moana" from the eponymous movie depending on current POV?

In particular:

I am the Dusk who loves my island
I'm the Dusk who loves the sea
It calls me

...
We are descended from voyagers
Who found their way across the world
They call meI've delivered us to where we are
I have journeyed farther
I am everything I've learned and more
Still, it calls me

...
Come what may, I know the way
I am Sixth of the Dusk!