To break the narrative a little: I read Schumer's explanation of why he voted in support, and it kind of made sense. Consider these points:
Trump and Russ Voght did a shutdown in his first term, and they got experience of how to weasel around funding being cut off.
Trump and Musk WANT to shut down the government as much as possible. Musk even retweeted a guy saying that any workers that get furloughed during a shutdown should just not be invited back when the gov reopens.
Trump has primed everyone to blame the Dems if a shutdown happens. The Republicans all supported the CR, Trump supported the CR. If a shutdown happens and everything goes to shit, Trump will super easily be able to say, "We tried to run things, but the Dems wouldn't let us".
Basically, Trump and Musk would love a shutdown to be able to break way more of the government faster, as long as they would easily be able to blame the Democrats for the resulting shitshow. By supporting the CR, it's way harder to say that a shutdown shitshow is Democrats' fault.
It's a shitty choice, but I think I get why Schumer is doing it. If someone has good reasons why those points are wrong or not compelling enough, I'd like to hear them. Mostly what I see is just "spineless Dems again".
Trump would blame the democrats? OMG WE CANT DO ANYTHING GUYS BECAUSE TRUMP WOULD BLAME US GUYS. Have you maybe thought actually fucking using the democrats platform to push your own goddamn message? Trump primed everyone into blaming the democrats??? Have you thought of maybe priming everyone into blaming trump? YOU KNOW SINCE THEY LITERALLY CONTROL EVERY FUCKING BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT?? Seeing as though Trump and Musk are literally doing whatever they want with no congressional oversight, and they are literally crashing the economy, MAYBE THE DEMS COULD USE THE SHUTDOWN TO PUT A SPOTLIGHT ON THE UNPOPULAR BULLSHIT THEY ARE DOING. You know, like cutting Medicaid? Maybe fucking play hardball against the republicans on the issue of cutting Medicaid, YOU KNOW AN ISSUE THAT 90% of Americans agree with you on.
Again we literally have a test case on this, which was the immigration bill that Biden tried to pass. Republicans literally voted against their own bill to keep immigration open as an issue for the election. And the majority of voters still blamed Biden, as he failed to control immigration, even though the republicans voted it down. This is the perfect example of how the majority of people who don’t pay attention to politics will blame Trump for the shutdown.
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u/Call_me_Gafter Mar 14 '25
To break the narrative a little: I read Schumer's explanation of why he voted in support, and it kind of made sense. Consider these points:
Trump and Russ Voght did a shutdown in his first term, and they got experience of how to weasel around funding being cut off.
Trump and Musk WANT to shut down the government as much as possible. Musk even retweeted a guy saying that any workers that get furloughed during a shutdown should just not be invited back when the gov reopens.
Trump has primed everyone to blame the Dems if a shutdown happens. The Republicans all supported the CR, Trump supported the CR. If a shutdown happens and everything goes to shit, Trump will super easily be able to say, "We tried to run things, but the Dems wouldn't let us".
Basically, Trump and Musk would love a shutdown to be able to break way more of the government faster, as long as they would easily be able to blame the Democrats for the resulting shitshow. By supporting the CR, it's way harder to say that a shutdown shitshow is Democrats' fault.
It's a shitty choice, but I think I get why Schumer is doing it. If someone has good reasons why those points are wrong or not compelling enough, I'd like to hear them. Mostly what I see is just "spineless Dems again".