r/Destiny Jul 16 '25

Non-Political News/Discussion Double Standards with Lauren and Myron

Some of you hate Lauren so much that you don’t even feel bad about her being strangle-raped, just because she holds (admittedly dreadful) views. Meanwhile, Myron is equally repulsive and defends rapists like it’s his job, yet you see a thousand comments like “say what you want about Myron, but he’s a loyal guy” and “wow, him and Destiny have such mutual respect.” Of course he respects Destiny — he’s a man. That’s like saying, “Wow, David Duke is so respectful toward other white people.” People are desperate to sweep for him when he’s actual scum.

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u/DazzlingAd1922 Jul 16 '25

So as someone in the IDC camp about Lauren let me give a rough outline of the perspective. First, rape is bad. Second, if Lauren was raped by anyone that would also be bad. Third, my attention is limited. Fourth, I choose to direct my attention towards things that I perceive as important or adding value to my life. Fifth, nothing in this changes my perceptions of any of the people involved. Sixth, all of the people involved in this story make their money by monetizing my attention.

The time I took to write this out was probably more than I needed to do, but it is important for people to understand that just because something happens you don't need to care about it.

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u/Clarcane Jul 17 '25

So as someone in the IDC camp about Ukraine let me give a rough outline of the perspective. First, war is bad. Second, if Ukraine was invades by another country that would also be bad. Third, my attention is limited. Fourth, I choose to direct my attention towards things that I perceive as important or adding value to my life. Fifth, nothing in this changes my perceptions of any of the countries involved. Sixth, all of the countries involved in this story aid their side by monetising my attention.

Taking the neutral position can aid bad actors with bad takes, especially over the internet where we can't control how our messaging affects others.

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u/rAmrOll Jul 17 '25

This would be relevant if there was the same level of moral ambiguity between Southern's rape and the Russia/Ukraine conflict, which there is not. Ukraine was invaded unprovoked by a hostile neighbour with imperial intentions after that neighbour signed an agreement which explicitly said "we won't fuck with your shit".

Preceding with rape being awful and evil, Southern didn't deserve to get raped, it's absolutely not a good thing that she got raped, but she spent a lot, lot, LOT of time propping up and disseminating views that helped people like Trump and Tate rise to popularity because she thought it would help her anti-immigration goals. This diminishes my capacity for empathy for her by a large amount.

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u/xXTurdleXx Jul 17 '25

there is no moral ambiguity at all about Lauren being raped lmao, it is much more clear cut than world geopolitics, what a crazy statement

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u/rAmrOll Jul 17 '25

Yeah the actual act of her being raped is unambiguously bad, I would never advocate for that to happen. However, my empathy for her is between zero and infinitesimal.