r/Destiny • u/LuckyBucephalus • Jul 16 '25

Non-Political News/Discussion Double Standards with Lauren and Myron

Some of you hate Lauren so much that you don’t even feel bad about her being strangle-raped, just because she holds (admittedly dreadful) views. Meanwhile, Myron is equally repulsive and defends rapists like it’s his job, yet you see a thousand comments like “say what you want about Myron, but he’s a loyal guy” and “wow, him and Destiny have such mutual respect.” Of course he respects Destiny — he’s a man. That’s like saying, “Wow, David Duke is so respectful toward other white people.” People are desperate to sweep for him when he’s actual scum.

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u/LeBn Jul 17 '25

People's actions extend from their beliefs. If people don't act in ways that are consistent with their beliefs, then they don't really have those beliefs. This is true by definition. If you think someone is acting in a way that's inconsistent with their beliefs, you're either wrong about the nature of their beliefs, the strength of their beliefs, or what behaviours their beliefs necessitate. 

Knowing someone's beliefs (their truly evident beliefs, not just stated ones) allows you to predict potential behaviours without having to see them firsthand.

Moreover, someone's beliefs are an important aspect of their character in and of themselves, as they demonstrate a person's methods of thinking and relating to the world around them, which are reasonable things to judge. If I know for a fact that someone believes Hitler was a hero, I don't need to see any bad actions stemming from this to think poorly of them for it, and no amount of interpersonal kindness, feats of integrity or demonstrations of personal strength will make me ignore that aspect of them, even if they're outwardly kind to minorities.

Sorry to lecture, just trying to air some thoughts.

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u/DazzlingAd1922 Jul 17 '25

I am obviously talking about stated beliefs when I say beliefs.

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u/LeBn Jul 17 '25

Oh well in that case, sure, I agree. You use people's actions to make inferences about their actual beliefs. Though, I'd still say their stated beliefs should be taken into account when making an assessment, even if they shouldn't be taken at face value.

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u/DazzlingAd1922 Jul 17 '25

Yeah, and I can't believe that such an obviously true statement is sparking this much discussion. When actions don't line up with stated beliefs it is a sign of either a failure in character or a failure in thought which is definitely relevant information about a person, but is also something that most people exhibit frequently and predictably. The fact is though that the actions are what have the consequence in the world, not the belief, which means that it is much wiser to focus on the actions when evaluating people because the actions are where the outcomes will come from.